Crate Rack/Storage Unit

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Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby Zirikana » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:25 am

I was looking at a crate just now, and realized it looks an awful lot like a really big drawer.... How about we build a "storage unit" out of a bunch of planks (12? 15?) to make a 1x2 stationary furniture object, which would behave much like the cart interface. It could show the crates as filled or empty drawer sprites, maybe six of then stacked top to bottom or whatever. You'd get more condensed/rational storage options than a cabinet, but at the cost of having to pull the drawers out individually to access them.

It would have to take more than four drawers to make it in any way desirable over a standard cupboard. 6 drawers x 15 /drawer = 90 items, vs 8 x 8 = 64 items? Maybe it isn't worth it, but who knows. I'd do a little extra schlepping for a 50% increase in storage space.
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby dra6o0n » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:37 pm

Cupboards = cup + boards = meaning the use of a container to store cups, whilst surrounded by boards.
I guess they technically make it look like that, but it doesn't explain the huge space.

Stackable crates plz... It makes no sense that a crate is half made with no lid on top.

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Making containers stackable makes it a neat idea, so that you can put containers or furnishing on top of crates.

It's suppose to give it more variations in storage.

Say you have a storehouse, and you'd rather store items there that people almost never use, so you make box crates and pile em on top of each other (up to 2 can be placed on 1 tile, one on top of one another), this doubles the storage you have PER tile, but you obviously can't access containers that's being stacked or is under something else, and you can't reach and open a container so high up.

Keep the crate cost at 4 boards and make the storage the same.
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby DigDog » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:53 pm

A crate can store 15 items. Two crates would be 30 items. That's still way less than a cupboard, even if you could stack three of them.
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby sabinati » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:01 pm

i don't understand why this would be desirable at all... why don't you just build cupboards? it would take a lot less wood.
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby Legolas6531 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:05 pm

DigDog wrote:A crate can store 15 items. Two crates would be 30 items. That's still way less than a cupboard, even if you could stack three of them.

He's right. Maybe a dresser type furniture?? Maybe some glass for a mirror, metal for handles and hinges. (or maybe some sort of wooden hinges and handles) An older 1900's dresser has about 9-10 drawers= 135-150 space, more than doubling a cupboard. Although a wall of them might not look as sexy as cupboards, surely more storage is sexy :D
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby Zirikana » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:13 pm

sabinati wrote:i don't understand why this would be desirable at all... why don't you just build cupboards? it would take a lot less wood.


I tried to come up with something that had both pros and cons over a cupboard, so that it didn't just become a "really big cupboard"

Pros:
*organization (distinct drawers)
*more dense storage than cupboards (this is contingent on being able to put enough distinct crates/drawers in so that the total storage size really is greater than the equivalent for a 1x1 cupboard. Say a 1x2 storage unit has 12 "slots" for crates => 12 x 15 = 180 spots versus two cupboards in the same footprint area => 64 + 64 = 128. You could do the same math, /2, for a 1x1 storage unit and 6 "slots")

Cons:
*More material needed
*Hassle of pulling out and setting down individual drawers

I was thinking of these things as being used for semi-long term storage, where the extra costs and hassles involved over just making a lot of cupboards are offset by the marginal increase in storage density. For everyday use, cupboards would obviously be better.

I'm not saying this is the greatest idea in the world, but I think i might not have been clear on my original point judging by your replies. The idea really came from the oft mentioned "stackable crates" that everyone wishes we had. This would give an easily implemented version of "stacked" crates, effectively.
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby DatOneGuy » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:30 pm

Don't get so overcomplicated.

1)Make them cost about the same as cupboards for wood, no one even likes making cupboards, fuck cupboards are a pain in the ass to make, I hate it.
2)Make them as proposed stackable, but you can't get anything from the bottom one without emptying the top one and moving it out of the way.

That would be very nice for 'crate storage' , the type shown in that picture.

Something similar to a cheese rack for storing the current 'Crate' we have ingame would also be nice, furthermore the fact that they take up 2x1 is friggin' ridiculous since as it stands they suck.
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby DigDog » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:38 pm

This type of stackable storage would only be useful if it actually had more space than a cupboard. Nobody would go through the hassle of taking down the upper crate to access the lower one just for the sake of organisation.

Or at least I wouldn't. I'd just throw a cupboard there and call it a day.
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby DatOneGuy » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:45 pm

DigDog wrote:This type of stackable storage would only be useful if it actually had more space than a cupboard. Nobody would go through the hassle of taking down the upper crate to access the lower one just for the sake of organisation.

Or at least I wouldn't. I'd just throw a cupboard there and call it a day.

Give each one the space of a cupboard and make it able to stack 3 of them, or give each of them 10x10 and make it able to stack 2 of them.

And there you go, preferably the former option.
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Re: Crate Rack/Storage Unit

Postby DigDog » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:12 am

DatOneGuy wrote:
DigDog wrote:This type of stackable storage would only be useful if it actually had more space than a cupboard. Nobody would go through the hassle of taking down the upper crate to access the lower one just for the sake of organisation.

Or at least I wouldn't. I'd just throw a cupboard there and call it a day.

Give each one the space of a cupboard and make it able to stack 3 of them, or give each of them 10x10 and make it able to stack 2 of them.

And there you go, preferably the former option.

Now that's something I would use.
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