Drugs Suggestions

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Drugs Suggestions

Postby Zakorski » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:37 am

Honestly, I propose that suggestions that follow the intelligent form of "Hurf hurf we needz mur drugz in game lulz" should be moved to Hel or just turfed. Hear me out as to why.

It's not that I think drugs in this game are a bad thing. I think it's funny to be honest. Smoking hemp buds makes food fill you less (like getting the post buzz munchies) but the suggestions are usually made by one of two kinds of people.

1) Real Stoners. These people wake and bake, and when they're playing while baked, they want to get baked in the game they're playing. We don't need a "I wants hash oil hurf" post from someone stoned out of their proverbial gourd.

2) Kiddos. These are the people who figure "I can't do drugs or anything bad in real life or I'll get in trouble, so let's get out my drug fantasies in a game" Also not productive. It's a wast of some Kbs of storage space on whatever server is hosting this forum.

Both of these kinds of people's suggestions are counter productive. I can generally tell which suggestions are like this (in need of merciful deletion) and which ones are legitimate suggestions. If someone takes time and thought to make a suggestion like making opium from poppies and having it give you a debuff after not using it for so long (effectively an addiction. Bad things happen when you don't use it, so you use it) so you could do things like lace wells with it to cause addictions in a village, then sell your opium to them when they need it. That may not be a very good suggestion (I thought it up on the spot, don't stone me please... sorry about the pun) but at least it could be considered relevant to the game.

Another reason why adding hash and the ability to drink bong water (and many other drug related suggestions I have seen ingame and on the forums) to the game is bad is simple. Fundies. Religious fundamentalists. The second some stay at home church mom in midwest america catches wind little timmy is playing a game with bad things like drugs and bears in it, our beloved developers could find themselves in hot water.

Just late night rantings. Feel free to comment, flame, defecate, whatever.
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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby vasjm88 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:26 pm

I have made a few drug related suggestion, but i thought them through, and did research before posting. Paganism has strong links to cannabis, it was widely used by the ancient cultures around the region H&H was set. For instance, I read an article on early marriage and the rituals involved in choosing a wife. The women of marrying age would dance naked through the mature hemp plants, while they were budding. As they started to sweat, they would get covered in trichomes (the little white fuzz on the buds of a cannabis plant). After they finished dancing, their body's were scraped, and hand fulls of these trichromes were collected, thus creating early hashish. They didn't just use the cannabis plant for smoking either, they made rope and and clothes from the stem of the plant. Hemp is known as one of the strongest natural plant fibers in the world. Another pagan ritual involving cannabis was that witches made a herbal concoction, and spread it on their broomstick heads, and proceeded to "mount" them, the herbal mixture was absorbed through the vaginal walls, giving them a high and inducing visions. It's where the belief that witches fly on their broomsticks came from, except that its a different kind of flying ;). I'm not trolling either, if you bother to research it you will find that this is all true. There is a lot of potential for cannabis/hemp related items/rituals/things in this game.
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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby Potjeh » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:32 pm

Our dear devs are safe in liberal Sweden, so I'm sure they'd find it highly amusing if a bunch of bible thumpers held protests against H&H.

And I bake and play, you got a problem with that?
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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby kaka » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:29 pm

Pothead wrote:Our dear devs are safe in liberal Sweden, so I'm sure they'd find it highly amusing if a bunch of bible thumpers held protests against H&H.

I think I can speak for J&L as well when I say we'd love it.
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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby loftar » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:40 pm

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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby Handofevil » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:52 pm

[Insert religious rant here]
NaoWhut wrote:a nice juicy jorb dong.
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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby Jackard » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:11 pm

Zakorski wrote:Another reason why adding hash and the ability to drink bong water (and many other drug related suggestions I have seen ingame and on the forums) to the game is bad is simple. Fundies. Religious fundamentalists. The second some stay at home church mom in midwest america catches wind little timmy is playing a game with bad things like drugs and bears in it, our beloved developers could find themselves in hot water.

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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby Zakorski » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:49 pm

;)

Like I said, I just have a problem with the poorly construed suggestions made for no reason other than "lol, drugs are funny, mmkay" Thought out suggestions that would have a positive effect on the game, go hard.

And Potjeh, I've got no problem with you playing baked. Not all people that play baked are the type I pointed out, just a group of them. I don't have anything against drugs. I've never used them personally, so I really can't be for or against them.
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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby Jackard » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:51 pm

you know what else is funny

americans
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Re: Drugs Suggestions

Postby Zakorski » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:00 am

I had an american convinced that in order for me to get internet in my igloo here in canada I had to freeze a salt water antenna because regular water doesn't conduct electricity as well as salt water does. They believed it for a week and a half. The only reason they stopped believing it was that I posted pictures of the renos on our house on facebook and they saw it wasn't made of snow.
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