Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

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Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby Phazorx » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:07 pm

Thanks for spending your time on this project guys, it seems to be quite different, nontrivial and challengingly interesting. Being a developer, i totally understand your difficulties and more than willing to lend a helping hand in any way i can. As software engineer, specializing in server side solution development and implementation of multiuser IT projects (lately - mostly MMO engines), I am sure there is something I can do to improve gaming experience or leverage some of my knowledge to increase performance. Aside of that - i often act as a consultant on some design aspects, since before getting into software side of thing s i been a tabletop games developer and have a good i deal of experience with challenge systems, balancing, game state machines, etc.
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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby sikgamer » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:13 pm

Sorry to burst your bubble but...
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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby Sarge » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:50 pm

Maybe you can still help with performance optimization though - it would be really cool if the lag can be reduced or eliminated entirely.
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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby Delamore » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:24 pm

Sarge wrote:Maybe you can still help with performance optimization though - it would be really cool if the lag can be reduced or eliminated entirely.

I would not be surprised if the current lag was caused by a bug of some kind rather than improper optimization.
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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby btaylor » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:43 pm

Delamore wrote:
Sarge wrote:Maybe you can still help with performance optimization though - it would be really cool if the lag can be reduced or eliminated entirely.

I would not be surprised if the current lag was caused by a bug of some kind rather than improper optimization.


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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby theTrav » Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:35 am

Work on a custom client.

That's about all you can do in terms of direct code contributions to H&H... Both Pacho and I have made customised clients that we have released to the community (Pacho's is vastly more popular than mine and he puts in more effort than me)

There's still plenty that can be done client side
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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby Russaria » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:04 pm

Although I read the statement about help which I as a game owner myself understand. What about financial help? Maybe a donation system at the very least to help the Devs afford a better server (If that is, that the lag is being caused by server overload as opposed to coding or implementation issues). Either way, I think a lot of players would be more than happy to send in small donations to help out if that is all the Devs would accept "helpwise".

That at least wouldn't cause any issues of ownership, ect.
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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby Potjeh » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:07 pm

They said there would be more legal hassle than they want to deal with. Best bet of giving them a hassle free donation is to buy them a beer or ten if you live in the same part of the world.
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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby Delamore » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:13 pm

Russaria wrote:Although I read the statement about help which I as a game owner myself understand. What about financial help? Maybe a donation system at the very least to help the Devs afford a better server (If that is, that the lag is being caused by server overload as opposed to coding or implementation issues). Either way, I think a lot of players would be more than happy to send in small donations to help out if that is all the Devs would accept "helpwise".

That at least wouldn't cause any issues of ownership, ect.

Goons have enquired multiple times about donations, apparently the big issue is that Jorb needs to see if donations qualify as gifts in Swedish tax law.
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Re: Hello Jorb & Loftar, what can I do for H&H?

Postby Jackard » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:08 am

there was a time where the goon client ran remarkably light on resources

but it was a mystery as to why and vanished in a later patch
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