Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thread

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Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thread

Postby parisparis » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:39 pm

current HnH is broken and to much of a mess. it needs to be remade.

This is how to solve mostly everything -

1. Stats are stupid. High levels are stupid. There is no need to have your stats go into thousands. it takes to much time for a permadeath. it crates to great of chaos between player too make it fun. imagine IRL, you simple peasant in 200 BC germany just fishing and BOOOM a 2013 USA MARINE teleports and misiles you while you are fucking fishing. THATS HOW IT FEELS IN H&H. the gap is to great. If you want to defend you hermitage or a small group, it takes ages to get to a decent STR ,UA , MC. the char you been making for months can be ganked in a couple minutes and fuck you.
This is how you solve it- you put a cap on stats. People seem to hate the idea but this would be just for the better. People already hate the curios. it would minimize the need. the current combat mechanics are made so that the skilled one wins, but because of high stats, the higher stat guy wins no matter how skilled is the lower stat guy.
MAKE SKILL MATTER MORE!

2. Just remove the teleportation already. Fix the transportation. ADD the damn horses. No hearthfires. Your body stays in one place no matter if you loged in or off. No need for summoning. everyone can kill you at any time. But of course they leave scents. i would suggest for a few new items: BIG boat, a tent, and fix the caravan. these would be sort of like your claim. if someone steals from them they leave scents.


Short version- Guys have high stats and murder everyone -> THEY hide in their vaults <- they use teleportation to create mechanics that let them hide easily.

(also can we remove name system pls. each person 'names' other folks based on their own knowledge. people would introduce themselves by what they want to be known. would create intrigue. You could ofcourse have a friend list, but the friend list would be linked to you account and not char. do you know how fking annoying it is to die and lose all your mates. fk that. and the skulls would not have any names if you did not name them before)
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby LadyV » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:02 pm

I would say more but your obviously angry. So quite simply, no!
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby Cranny » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:59 pm

We all know how annoying it is, almost all of us have died and been robbed and griefed, and the few that did not, have seen it in friends and village mates.
But we seem to like how it is, if not we would not have been here for years, world after world. :D

One thing I agree is that I would like the inherit to get the kin list. It bores me to go to each skype contact and ask/give hs.
Also it seems to me a waste of time the need to discover all mats again, as we all use barters, know we need to smelt into nuggs, etc.
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby parisparis » Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:10 pm

LadyV wrote:I would say more but your obviously angry. So quite simply, no!


Not angry <3/ just an expressive language ;)

Cranny wrote:We all know how annoying it is, almost all of us have died and been robbed and griefed, and the few that did not, have seen it in friends and village mates.
But we seem to like how it is, if not we would not have been here for years, world after world. :D

One thing I agree is that I would like the inherit to get the kin list. It bores me to go to each skype contact and ask/give hs.
Also it seems to me a waste of time the need to discover all mats again, as we all use barters, know we need to smelt into nuggs, etc.


Well i would agree that HnH is one of the most amazing games, however i think everything can be better. Like remember the lag back couple years ago? people still played. i see current problems like lag, the game is great but there is always something fixing and making better.


Also sorry Mod that you had to move this post , didin't mean it :)
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby dagrimreefah » Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:09 pm

They're already remaking HnH. Pay attention.

Also, you think stats are stupid? I think your grandma is stupid.
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby parisparis » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:02 pm

dagrimreefah wrote:They're already remaking HnH. Pay attention.

Also, you think stats are stupid? I think your grandma is stupid.



I know that they are remaking HnH .


Stats are not stupid , but not having a cap is. basically who grinds / bots/ or has the biggest clan wins. no skill required in game.
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby overtyped » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:58 am

I wouldn't mind a softcap, but no hardcap, for example, it costs 100 points additional cost per level, perhaps every 50 points in a skill, should double that cost. Also make the difference in combat abilities not so huge, for example a 100 unarmed character vs a 150 unarmed still has a chance of winning a fight. Then being huuuuge wont be as big of a deal.
Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby superman7 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:07 am

It seems to me a waste of time the need to discover all mats again, as we all use barters, know we need to smelt into nuggs, etc.
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby FLO » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:55 pm

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everything can be exploited one way or another no matter how hard anyone trys
the no tp eg i come up to you while your friend is picking a bolete i take you in the boat i boat for hours and hours then simply destroy the boat swim other side of river build new one go home (ofcourse never happen but its 1 of many ways)
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Re: Lost paris in my anger, ranted off topic in another thre

Postby TrooPeRZz » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:10 am

parisparis wrote: imagine IRL, you simple peasant in 200 BC germany just fishing and BOOOM a 2013 USA MARINE teleports and misiles you while you are fucking fishing.


Well that's one way of putting it.
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