Vassalage similar to Asheron's Call

[memestream]

I saw that this had been brought up in another thread, but it seems to be presented in a rather different way than what I think might be interesting. I've noticed that a lot of people who play H&H seem to remain fairly low powered(both economically and martially) for most of their time playing, even if they have been playing a considerably long time. I personally like this aspect of the game, as it seems to create an informal class system of sorts. I guess I see this as a potential way to network these groups of people around more influential players who could better tap into their potential.

For those of you who aren't familiar with the Asheron's Call vassalage system, it went a little like this:

1) You invite somebody to become your vassal. This is usually done by a more experienced player toward a lower level one. If they choose to accept, they will grant you a very small portion of their earned experience(LP).

2) The individual can easily refuse the offer, for this reason most sovereigns will offer the potential vassal a gift for his service.

3) The vassal can leave the service of the sovereign at any time. It is for this reason that sovereigns typically treat their vassals well and provide them with infrastructure/resources otherwise unavailable to them.

4) This system is hard to exploit because the people who enter into it must give something up and alt's must actually do work to earn LP in order for their sovereign to gain any benefit from it. To prevent higher LP players from 'power leveling' lower level players, simply require that a sovereign has more LP than their vassal. To avoid a host of macroing alts, I would think it would be easy to cap the amount of LP gained for repeating a task a certain number of times without other actions being involved. I might be wrong on that though...

A mere suggestion as usual btw, no need for anybody to fly off the handle. If you think it's retarded, just say so and why. I would also/alternatively like to see some sort of improvement of the kin system to make it something more than a simple buddy list.

[CG62]

I think this system will probably work better AFTER the LP overhaul.


And once there is a centralized currency... Wait, that's serfs isn't it?

[Peter]

You know, I was wondering if a "training" mechanic would work, where one would train someone to grant them some of your LP.

But I didn't think about this LP overhaul. I wouldn't mind some new system.

[Cain]

I think this system will probably work better AFTER the LP overhaul.


And once there is a centralized currency... Wait, that's serfs isn't it?

I don't think there will ever be a "gp" form of money implemented. I also believe that HnH lacks the 1) ease of player interaction/trading 2) variety of goods 3) variety of players needed to create a player made currency.

There will never be a centralized currency QED

[CG62]

I think this system will probably work better AFTER the LP overhaul.


And once there is a centralized currency... Wait, that's serfs isn't it?

I don't think there will ever be a "gp" form of money implemented. I also believe that HnH lacks the 1) ease of player interaction/trading 2) variety of goods 3) variety of players needed to create a player made currency.

There will never be a centralized currency QED

Well of course there will never be a universally accepted currency, so I suppose I should have used a weaker wording.

But I do believe that once empires and such reach a certain size they will begin using coinage as currency, allowing a serf/vassal/citizen to buy things with currency, and to pay taxes with currency.

And shit.

[memestream]

Bear in mind that the word vassal isn't necessarily synonymous with the word serf. Knights and other nobility were also vassals...

[CG62]

I am aware of this.