raise str needed to bash pali

[kret1337]

This might sound stupid but i think its way too easy to rush str to bash pali. It simply give no chance to noob to learn the game and build a bw. So simply raising the soak on palisade would make the game a lot more noob friendly.

Idea for next world

[TeckXKnight]

That'd only make it easier for raiders to have absolutely no consequences. They're the ones who will rush strength regardless to bash you and then no one will be able to practically break their walls to extract justice. Let most of the wall experiments that have happened, buffs to defenders only makes it easier for attackers to have no punishment at all.

[borka]

What Teck said - i'd prefer no handbashing of Pallis like it is with Brickwalls - there should be siege tools only that need a dry time like Ram

Sure it might take some fun away for some but eliminates "drive by bashing" as most Rangers stopped to care about tracking scents when there are some lowbie Pallis bashed in a row...

[Aegir]

i'd prefer no handbashing of Pallis like it is with Brickwalls - there should be siege tools only that need a dry time like Ram

Sure it might take some fun away for some but eliminates "drive by bashing" as most Rangers stopped to care about tracking scents when there are some lowbie Pallis bashed in a row...

I think handbashing is completely ridiculous, one should at least have to use a sledgehammer or something like that to destroy a palli.
There seems to be a general idea that there's no point in buiding pallisades anymore, I just find that annoying.

And to Borka, I'm back again.

[borka]

With handbashing i mean tools like sledgehammer included not just bare hands

WB!

[Aegir]

Anyway, I think it's a good idea to make it more difficult to bash a palli.

[Amanda44]

Tbh, I do too - imo, the actual process of bashing the wall should take much, much longer, even with high strength - have you seen how fast the strong payers can get through one?! If it were a group of bashers it would make more sense but a single person with a sledgehammer and enough str can get through a pali as if it were cardboard and thats what seems silly to me.

A pali is really just a quick and temporary defense, I still think they are worth having, not everyone rushes to pali-bashing status and people come and go in this game - including pali-bashers - a b/wall can be very time consuming with a large village or as a single hermit, palisades still have value in the interim.

[MissSiri]

If palisades were buffed, from a noob perspective, it would make things somewhat safer, but could also lead to problems with misplaced wall segments, which seem to occur pretty frequently on noob claims, perhaps make them easier to bash for the owner?

[borka]

There are enough guides suggesting to check out with fence first - even RoB Wiki suggests it in the Notes. And to have 2 chars with STR 10 to operate a Ram shouldn't be that hard to create - even for Noobs - and building a Ram doesn't require any mats you haven't discovered already when able to build a Palli.

The flaw in my opinion is no waiting time with handbashing - a Palli is somewhat just fatalistic ...

Have some MBC on me