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Postby ViciousGamer04 » Tue May 25, 2010 8:53 pm

Just because i'm bored and don't have much of anything better to do i'll just post up "Already suggested ideas" that i've seen throughout this forum.

Basic Debate Topics:
H&H should charge for extra features: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8298
What Seeds/Trees do you think would be nice to have: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8097
Better Macro Protection: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7922
Change Swimming: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1803
Combat Levels reduced: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7693
Not Enough Mines: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7763
Palisades need too much repair: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7309
Ways to heal yourself: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4600
Milk reduction: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4456
Village Authority Drain Speed: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7997
Change Stats for the Symbel: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8058
Add a minimum distance to crossroads: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8402
Removal of Inactive Lawspeaker: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10336
Should All Items Decay: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10295
Increased size of Kin List: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10209

New skills:
Making Books: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7907
Pickpocketing: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8003
Poisoning people: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8002
Hearth Geology: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7857
Pyro Capabilities: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7736
Learning & Teaching: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4961

New features:
Ocean Voyages: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8229
Ships & Ports: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7757
More Boats: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5029
Funerals, Graves, Grave Robbers, and Skeletons: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7832
Breeding Rabbits: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7389
Xfire Compatibility: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7710
Equip Slot for Keys: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6719
Hearth Fire Travelling: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7530
Group Lift: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6730
Cards & Dice: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7661
Churches & Priests: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7245
Stockpiles: ~Resolved.. I believe.~ http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6073
Hidden Stash/Buried Treaure: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6893
Stone walls, multiple floors:: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7417
Emotes: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7595
Bulletin Board: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7123
Bridges: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1876
Hunting dogs: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6615
Smoke Signals: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6268
Automated Trade System: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6229
Character deletion: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6182
Bounties/Requests: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4983
Dismemberment http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2905
Custom Items: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2897
Specialization: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3161
Mouse Over Info: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2979
New form of teleportation: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2221
The Sea: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1573
Tunnels: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1956
Smokehouses: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1164
Rare Boss Monsters: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1499
Cannabilism: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=863
Sanctuaries http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1166
Email Notifications: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1132
High-end clothing: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1147
StoneHalls: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=856
Multiple Worlds/servers: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=646
Handcuffs: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=567
Swearing & Censoring: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=481
Underground Farming: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=369
Locks & Lockpicking http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=228
Dungeons, Caves & New monsters: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=187
Chisels, Caves, and Stoneworking: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6535
The ability to make Larger Ovens: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2445
The ability to make explosives: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10269
The ability to remove crops http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9833

New Items:
Different type of axe: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7968
Nightvision: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7863
Hot Air Balloon/Airships: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7758
Temples & Monuments: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7597
Fairies & Fairie rings: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7566
Shovel: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4212
Outfits: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4456
Pest Repellent: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10207
Cow Plow: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10185
Non-bear Cloaks: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10194
Rubber, Sugar, Coffee, Bridges & Walls: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10150
Tobacco Boxes: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7724

Changes to current system:

Cow Quality too slow: ~Resolved?~ http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7831
Tree replanting: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7760
Ability to lift cows: ~resolved..indirectly.(rafts. XD.)~ http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7591
Increase Torch Radius: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7578
Claim Intrusion: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7140
Change Wine into Vinegar: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6550
Kinning Villages: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5309
Rotating stuff: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2112
Skinning & Butchering dead people: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6736
Hives should work on fruit trees: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5860
Terrain Types: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5768
Increase Visibility of on-screen objects/terrain: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4400
In-game Tutorial: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8019
Weather and it's effect on Gameplay Aspects: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8825

Other:
A place to sort out worthwhile ideas: ~somewhat resolved.~ http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7996
Different donation payment methods: http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7003

Feel free to mention one and link to it if you feel I missed something which i'm sure I have as this thread I only skimmed through forum to come up with list.

Also feel free to list any suggestions you feel might be over-suggested but are kind of obscure or perhaps not mentioned above.

Edit: Went through all 78 pages. Here & there while working on other things on the computer. This list above is what I came up with.

Edit 2: Went through and made actual category titles bigger which I did plan on getting to at a certain point anyways but since TheTrav mentioned it and I was pretty bored at the time.. i'll also be bbcoding the links at some point. Probably tomorrow.

For other things that might not be mentionined in these threads..:

Suggestion Index:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2256

Suggestion Index #2
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5195
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby burgingham » Tue May 25, 2010 9:08 pm

So you are basically mentioning your own threads here, huh?

Ok you seem to have added a few more. I would recommend to leave this to a mod though.
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby Jackard » Tue May 25, 2010 9:15 pm

burgingham wrote:So you are basically mentioning your own threads here, huh? Ok you seem to have added a few more. I would recommend to leave this to a mod though.

anyone willing to update them consistently can make these threads. they probably wont be stickied unless they are objective and well-done, though. the current OP contains the bare minimum such a thread would have, for example.
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby ViciousGamer04 » Tue May 25, 2010 9:19 pm

burgingham wrote:So you are basically mentioning your own threads here, huh?

Ok you seem to have added a few more. I would recommend to leave this to a mod though.


I'm mentioning all threads that i feel have gotten a good enough amount of posts(or one's that I see repeatedly posted.). Coincidentally a lot of threads for suggestions I made did get a fairly good amount of responses. Generally at least more then one page worth. I am basically going from page 1 to page 2, to page etc. I added mine first as I knew them off the top of my head and it's easy to get to them as opposed to sifting through Ideas board thinger. :lol:

I dunno, we shall see. I'm just doing it now because i'm bored. Later I suppose a mod could re-write this or something. Right now i'm basically just linking to all of them. My next step if i get time and am still bored is to list the pros & cons mentioned within the threads, and general ideas for improvement such as one's mentioned in the macro protection thread. annnd. If i'm really bored perhaps a quick summary for each thread.
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby DatOneGuy » Tue May 25, 2010 9:28 pm

This works if you plan on actually sticking around long enough to keep this thread alive. I suppose if you leave someone else can keep it up to date. If you're going to start such an idea thread I suggest you actually start reading backwards through the forum and look for the better threads, not just 'threads with a lot of posts'.

Considering the amount of threads you've made here and the quality of them, are you sure you're the best for it? It's nice that you suggested it, but you should probably leave it to someone who's been here longer, has seen most of these suggestions (as some older members often point out, most are already thought of and just reposted), and knows what quality is to make.

If however no one of that caliber steps up and you do it, I suppose I'll be suggesting threads to link.

To start with don't link:
Village Authority Drain Speed: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7997 - Read your own topic before just linking it...
A place to sort out worthwhile ideas: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7996 - Not an ingame suggestion
Cow Quality: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7831 - Mark it as resolved
Hot Air balloon/Airships: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7758 - I hope you were joking when you made this, and again when you linked it.


Oh I almost forgot, the combat suggestion one too, that's ridiculous.


Edit: I'll keep editing this post with ideas that seem to have come up several times, and were well met.
Stockpiles - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6073
Name colors in party - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7692 ( I don't think a single sane person will object)
Quality display for built objects - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2251 (This has been suggested many times, I simply grabbed one of the threads)
Troughs in Wagons - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7606 (An example of an implemented ideas)
Belts - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6371 (Probably the only example of a simple idea that was fleshed out to actually be good)

Not a suggestion, but an example of a well thought of thread that would belong here:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7924

If this continues to be kept up, it is also worth mention:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7824
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby burgingham » Tue May 25, 2010 9:30 pm

Jackard is ofc right, anybody willing to make an objective list that is updated regularly is fine. But just because a thread has 2 pages doesn't mean it is a good idea. In fact your thread title is suggesting you are collecting ideas that have been proposed over and over again or ideas that might come to mind fairly easy. I guess you should stick to those and not add threads because you made them and they got more than 5 replies.
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby ViciousGamer04 » Tue May 25, 2010 9:36 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:This works if you plan on actually sticking around long enough to keep this thread alive. I suppose if you leave someone else can keep it up to date. If you're going to start such an idea thread I suggest you actually start reading backwards through the forum and look for the better threads, not just 'threads with a lot of posts'.

Considering the amount of threads you've made here and the quality of them, are you sure you're the best for it? It's nice that you suggested it, but you should probably leave it to someone who's been here longer, has seen most of these suggestions (as some older members often point out, most are already thought of and just reposted), and knows what quality is to make.

If however no one of that caliber steps up and you do it, I suppose I'll be suggesting threads to link.

To start with don't link:
Village Authority Drain Speed: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7997 - Read your own topic before just linking it...
A place to sort out worthwhile ideas: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7996 - Not an ingame suggestion
Cow Quality: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7831 - Mark it as resolved
Hot Air balloon/Airships: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7758 - I hope you were joking when you made this, and again when you linked it.


Oh I almost forgot, the combat suggestion one too, that's ridiculous.


I read all my threads that I make.

The forum in question isn't just for in-game ideas but for ideas and critique in general.

Direct quote from forum description:
Thoughts on the further development of Haven & Hearth? Feel free to opine!


The purpose of the thread isn't to be biased in any way and to post up every thread that seemed to get a fair amount of responses & one's that I feel might be suggested again. I could mark certain one's as resolved that are resolved but that's a lot of pages to sift through so I don't always know which one's have been resolved and which haven't.

Well, although people have trashed my Hot Air Balloon/airship suggestion the idea was more to help people start thinking 3dimensionally in a 2D game to help suggest more ideas to make it a more entertaining & unique survivalisque game.

burgingham wrote:Jackard is ofc right, anybody willing to make an objective list that is updated regularly is fine. But just because a thread has 2 pages doesn't mean it is a good idea. In fact your thread title is suggesting you are collecting ideas that have been proposed over and over again or ideas that might come to mind fairly easy. I guess you should stick to those and not add threads because you made them and they got more than 5 replies.


Well if you can think of a better thread title let me know. I felt it kind of worked but I can see how it might get confusing. I'm basically making a collection of threads throughout H&H's forum which could be commonly suggested threads or just simply threads that have been suggested in the past. Also as an easy reference point for perhaps the developers to sift through at a much easier rate then in the state it's currently in.
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby sabinati » Tue May 25, 2010 9:49 pm

the whole point of cleanup of this forum is so we wouldn't need a thread listing the threads because there wouldn't be so goddamn many
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby DatOneGuy » Tue May 25, 2010 9:54 pm

I'm not trying to trash your ideas or you, but if you read the sticky you'll see that most of your the threads you linked to aren't exactly following those guidelines.

If you're going to make a thread like this you're going to just post every idea. That doesn't solve anything, all it does is give us another way of just you know... scrolling down through the forum and clicking the title. If you make a thread like this, you should limit it to:
A)Threads that are repeated often so that they're not repeated again and people can just bump them or add what they want to it.
B)Threads that are well-met

The forum being clean would mean that this thread in particular the way you're making it would be useless, with that said, just do as sabinati requested and you'll have pretty much the same thing as this thread, but the proper way.
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Re: Already Suggested Ideas...read here perhaps before posting?

Postby ViciousGamer04 » Tue May 25, 2010 10:16 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:I'm not trying to trash your ideas or you, but if you read the sticky you'll see that most of your the threads you linked to aren't exactly following those guidelines.

If you're going to make a thread like this you're going to just post every idea. That doesn't solve anything, all it does is give us another way of just you know... scrolling down through the forum and clicking the title. If you make a thread like this, you should limit it to:
A)Threads that are repeated often so that they're not repeated again and people can just bump them or add what they want to it.
B)Threads that are well-met

The forum being clean would mean that this thread in particular the way you're making it would be useless, with that said, just do as sabinati requested and you'll have pretty much the same thing as this thread, but the proper way.


Well, the thread should list not only overly suggested ideas but unique ideas as well. Just because they're unique they shouldn't be ignored. Just because someone didn't formulate their idea properly, it's an idea nontheless and shouldn't be dismissed. Although it would be nice if everyone could articulate themselves properly that's just not feasible.

That's debatable considering I don't really see sabinati going through and cleaning the area out 100% & moving threads to the proper places. I also feel that going to one thread to be able to be linked to all viable threads makes it easier for people to use as a reference point to not only make sure their thread wasn't already suggested before but at the same time be able to sift through one page of threads in one thread & be able to respond to threads that interest them.

I don't know about you but I personally find it annoying to go page through page to find the thread i'm interested in responding to. Although cleaning out this forum will make it easier to manuever through there is more then enough suggestions to make it hard to narrow it down to just one page.
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