butterfly nets and saddlebags

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butterfly nets and saddlebags

Postby Coriander » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:57 pm

two ideas
Nets
I managed to snag a moth and it proved to be a significant challenge. I would get a lock in it and a tree, toad or ridge would block me. I recommend we be able to build butterfly nets and that using one slows those skittish bugs down a tad.
Bags
I would love to be able to make and use a couple of smaller, portable containers to supplement the backpack. Perhaps a fanny pack or a pouch large enough to hold a thermos of tea and a chunk of bread or two along with some coins.
Another thought is to allow strapping an ax, a bow, a quiver or a fishing pole to the backpack.
I find the space limitation to hinder game play, perhaps more than intended. Especially as more items are added for me to interact with like keys etc.
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Re: butterfly nets and saddlebags

Postby Machenoid » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:18 am

Nets:
Slow it down? What?
Nets should increase the distance which you can catch the moth, so you don't need to be on top of it to grab it. Unless of course you meant that it would be an item that would be thrown onto the moth... Come to think of it, that'd be awsome too. A throwing net to capture silk moths = awsomeness.

Bags/Straps: Between the shoes and backpack equipment slots on the paper doll, is a slot that only seems to be used by the quiver; that slot could be used for this when it's not used by said quiver!
* Bags could work like:
- Empty, the bag is 1-2 tiles large in the player's inventory. Objects are placed inside like Kilns are fueled (LMB select the item, then RMB on the bag)
- With 1 object inside, can NOT be placed inside the players' regular inventory; it can only be placed in the slot between the backpack/shoes, or on the ground.
- When it is on the ground, right clicking will cause a flower menu to appear with "Open" and "Equip" being the options available; one to open it like a normal ground-based container, the other to put it into the (not-being-used-by-a-quiver) bag slot.
- The bag has many horizontal tiles, possibly dependent on what the bag is made from, but only in 1 tile high rows; to stop weird things like buckets and arrows from fitting inside. (arrows would poke holes in the bag after all! :lol: ) (?Clothing bags = 1 row of 10; Leather bags = 2 rows of 10?)
- adventure->lift is possible (so the player can carry 1 bag on himself, and another over his head; at the normal crawl speed)

* Straps could work like:
Much more simple. If the object can fit inside a player inventory, the strap can carry it; but only that one object! +1 plank, or bucket, or quiver, or armor... Oh, and no infinite chains of straps carrying straps carrying straps; the object the strap is carrying is un-usable until it becomes "unstrapped" (like how the bag has to be dropped to be opened)

edit - forgot one of the suggested rules for the bag
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Re: butterfly nets and saddlebags

Postby theTrav » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:25 am

Relevant to bag discussions is probably the fact that J&L mentioned want to implement a more thorough weight & encumbrance system where by items have weight, so I imagine if you're carrying a big heavy axe and wearing heavy metal armor, and carrying a pack full of iron bars, then if you're going to need either a lot of strength or you'll be moving pretty slowly.
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Re: butterfly nets and saddlebags

Postby Coriander » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:00 am

I like the encumbrance concept. It seems possible and plausible.
Humans can take on some pretty impressive loads though. I am thinking of the Voyagers and the impressive amount they carried on a portage.
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Re: butterfly nets and saddlebags

Postby theTrav » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:20 am

Coriander wrote:Humans can take on some pretty impressive loads though. I am thinking of the Voyagers and the impressive amount they carried on a portage.

That's fine, what this allows them to do though is put encumbrance limits on both people and containers. So although you CAN have a bag in a bag in a bag, if you put too much crap in it either won't fit, or it'll burst open.
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Re: butterfly nets and saddlebags

Postby Machenoid » Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:05 am

theTrav wrote:That's fine, what this allows them to do though is put encumbrance limits on both people and containers. So although you CAN have a bag in a bag in a bag, if you put too much crap in it either won't fit, or it'll burst open.

... or the person carrying it will burst open
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