Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

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Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:19 am

Not sure about everyone else but feasting is annoying as it is now, and considering how often one would eat on a table for the bonus this is a real pain in the ass.

1)The bar, it takes a while, it's annoying. Eating food regularly was annoying enough due to the flower menu typically lagging a bit
2)There's no way to 'queue' food, so you have to sit there and click the food, and click, and click, and click some more. It's tedious, it gets annoying over time.
3)Eating things that give low FEPs like carrots are especially annoying. Carrots are very efficient, but people don't decide not to eat them because something else is better, they decide not to because the amount of clicks is ridiculous (Especially on a table...)

I had something else but it escaped me, so I'll add it if it comes back to me.
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Re: Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby Winterbrass » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:26 am

Tables need an 'eat until full' option which would eat everything in order and stop you from overstuffing yourself.

Furthermore, players need belt-equippable sacks made out of linen or leather which are independent of inventory and have specific purposes. One type could be a 'snack bag', 'ration sack' or something of the sort. Right-click and a flower menu would pop up with 'Eat Something', 'Eat Until Full' and 'Eat Everything'.

Ta-da.
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Re: Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:42 am

Was actually just going to make a thread suggesting there should be a way to just toss together stuff like carrots or peas (things with terribly low FEP) so you can just eat them in one click.

That would be a rather elegant solution to this problem.
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Re: Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby fartbarter » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:43 am

Solution: Bowls :P
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Re: Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby sabinati » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:17 am

DatOneGuy wrote:Was actually just going to make a thread suggesting there should be a way to just toss together stuff like carrots or peas (things with terribly low FEP) so you can just eat them in one click.

That would be a rather elegant solution to this problem.


you mean like the spring stew?
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Re: Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby martinuzz » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:40 am

With feasting, eating things needs less clicking than before.

Instead of rightclick - leftclick 'eat' , you now only need to click them once with the fork. Okay, you need to put them on the table first, but that's just 1 mousewheelscroll, not many clicks.

I agree however, that the progress bar for feasting on stuff is annoying. It should take less time to eat a single piece of food.
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Re: Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:23 pm

sabinati wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:Was actually just going to make a thread suggesting there should be a way to just toss together stuff like carrots or peas (things with terribly low FEP) so you can just eat them in one click.

That would be a rather elegant solution to this problem.


you mean like the spring stew?

Spring Stew sucks because it lowers my carrot Q to whatever my cauldron Q/water Q would also be, furthermore it doesn't increase it by too much... in fact sometimes it can be even less than eating the carrots alone... In the time you could get q200 peapods you could get q400~ carrots, even if you boiled these in q80 water with a q110 cauldron you'd almost halve the quality of just eating the carrots which give pretty nice FEPs, just as big a pain to eat, not to even mention also the very high chance to give CHA, why even bother?

An 'eating sack' would be fine, I couldn't think of an elegant way to do it besides some silly recipe that takes like 10 carrots and makes some stupid salad or something that has a slight (note slight) weakness FEP wise. I may be missing the point of a cauldron in salads (Seriously, a cauldron... for salads?) but taking something like 5 carrots and giving 4 PER for 50 Hunger would be fine.

I don't really care how it's done, I just want a way to eat all these carrots, get a decent amount of PER and not have to deal with all this flower menu lag when doing it. (Maybe it's just me, but my flower menu can take up to 30seconds to open, having to do that PER carrot is terrible)
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Re: Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby sabinati » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:23 pm

a q400 carrot would give 6.3 per fep, a q200 pea would give 4 per and .4 str fep, q150 (halved from the average of the 2 ingredients) spring stew would give 11.6 per and 11.6 cha fep... unless cha is your highest stat i don't see why you wouldn't want some, especially considering there's not much that raises only cha. eating a spring stew, a carrot, and a pea with the quantities specified would give you .4 str, 21.9 per and 11.6 cha with the added bonus of reducing your fep total twice. and it's not like spring stew is the only thing you can make with peas or carrots.

p.s. rightclick + press the 1 key for eating via flower menus
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Re: Eating can be annoying (A few ideas)

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:58 pm

sabinati wrote:a q400 carrot would give 6.3 per fep, a q200 pea would give 4 per and .4 str fep, q150 (halved from the average of the 2 ingredients) spring stew would give 11.6 per and 11.6 cha fep... unless cha is your highest stat i don't see why you wouldn't want some, especially considering there's not much that raises only cha. eating a spring stew, a carrot, and a pea with the quantities specified would give you .4 str, 21.9 per and 11.6 cha with the added bonus of reducing your fep total twice. and it's not like spring stew is the only thing you can make with peas or carrots.

p.s. rightclick + press the 1 key for eating via flower menus

I'm aware of that shortcut

My CHA actually isn't that far behind.
Peapods are much slower than Carrots, much.

Carrots+Beetroot are good for PER because they are fast, and give a nice amount.

Having to do the same amount of peas as carrots means I have to have at least double (more like triple) the amount of peas as I do carrots.

Eating just the carrots alone (even q200) would beat the crap out of q100 spring stew. It's the chance to get CHA that's the problem it's not like it's 1:3 or something.

Eating betweent he table and off the table at the same time is more time consuming than either of the aforementioned, having to unclick, wait for the fork to turn back to a hand, and then deal with the flower menu... how does this solve any of the problems I was addressing?

It takes too long to eat, and considering how big eating is and how often one would eat, it's just especially annoying with anything like this as you have to deal with a lot more clicking.
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