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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby grumgrumganoe » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:42 pm

WowGain wrote:since you're all fucking retarded btw lemme explain something

the age of consent exists to protect children (two 16 year olds that are in a relationship have sex, etc).

THEY DO NOT EXIST TO ALLOW PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF MAJORITY (18) TO HAVE SEX WITH MINORS (PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 18). PLEASE FUCKING NECK YOURSELF IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE.

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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Apocoreo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:44 pm

Oh hey guys it just hit me

if the only morality is if something is a crime

then there's nothing wrong with pvping in haven

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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby overtyped » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:44 pm

WowGain wrote:since you're all fucking retarded btw lemme explain something

the age of consent exists to protect children (two 16 year olds that are in a relationship have sex, etc).

THEY DO NOT EXIST TO ALLOW PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF MAJORITY (18) TO HAVE SEX WITH MINORS (PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 18). PLEASE FUCKING NECK YOURSELF IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE.




Good afternoon. As a practicing lawyer of the land, please, allow me to, humbly, try shedding some light on the subject or, at least, offer you some food for thought.

So, as brazilian laws go, there is not a single clause that directly states the "age of consent" in the country. In fact, although "consent" is understood as an essential element to be present at any sexual activity in order for it not to be considered a criminal act, e.g. rape, the brazilian law does not stablishes an age when someone becomes entitled to properly manifest ones decision on regard of sexual matters.

For this reason, most layman in the country - and even some law practicioners that are not used to the field of family law - understand that the age of consent in Brazil is the very same of the achievment of full civil capacity, that is, 18 years of age.

That said, the brazilian Penal Code stabilishes in its article 213 the crime of "Estupro" (rape) as "Constranger alguém, mediante violência ou grave ameaça, a ter conjunção carnal ou a praticar ou permitir que com ele se pratique outro ato libidinoso: Pena - reclusão, de 6 (seis) a 10 (dez) anos." (To compel someone, through violence or grave threat, to achieve carnal comunion or practice or allow that others practice with then another libidinous act: Penalty - reclusion, from 6 (six) to 10 (ten) years).

On the other hand, the same brazilian Penal Code, in its article 217-A, defines the crime of "Estupro de Vulnerável" (rape of vulnerable) as: "Ter conjunção carnal ou praticar outro ato libidinoso com menor de 14 (catorze) anos: Pena - reclusão, de 8 (oito) a 15 (quinze) anos." (To achieve carnal comunion or practice another libidinous act with someone under 14 (fourteen) years of age: Penalty - reclusion, from 8 (eight) to 15 (fifteen) years.)

Now, observe that, in the first case, the crime of "rape", the criminal conduct is characterized by the perpetrator forcing their will against the victim, through violent or threatning methods, in other worlds, ignoring the lack of consent by the victim for the act. In the other hand, in the second case, the "rape of vulnerable", there is not a similar allusion, whatsoever, to the possible supression of the victims wills. In this case, the age of the victim is the sole factor that characterizes the crime.

So, comparing the two definitions brought by the Penal Code, and through a "reverse interpretation" of the article 217-A of the law, we can understand that the brazilian law givers considered that any person under the age of 14 is uncapable of asserting oneself about the practice of sexual acts, thus, any such acts performed with then, by legally capable person, will be considered a crime.

Hence, the understanding that the "age of consent" in Brazil is 14 years.

Just for a quick illustration, there is a minor theory that sustains the "age of consent" in Brazil should be 12 years of age. That because the "Estatuto da Criança e do Adolescente" (Children and Adolescent Estatute), or ECA, defines as "adolescent" all people between 12 and 18 years of age. Since the ECA is more specific law to the subject of infancy, for the sake of constance, the age defined on the ECA should be adopted by the Penal Code.

With all that in mind, I would only like to urge you understand that, despite any personal opinion adopted on the matter, the saying of the law is just part of the answer to the question of the reason the age of consent in Brazil is as it is. Note that it usually takes a lot of time for laws to be updated, hence, it is not uncommon for then not representing the most recent social beliefs or practices of the society. In fact, as pointed out before, most people probably believes that the age of consent is set at 18 years, but none would deny the assumption that many people had thei first sexual experience at 15 or 16 years (maybe younger). My point: the law does not necessarily points the idea of normalcy of a society, but, at most, shows a particular position, ofa rulling group, over a given subject. Normalcy, in social context, varies a lot.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby WowGain » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:46 pm

overtyped wrote:chat gpt reddit pedo shit


you asked chat gpt to write up you went to reddit for an an argument for child-rape
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Apocoreo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:48 pm

I am a sovereign citizen and in my land of awestopia it is legal to rip babies in half
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby overtyped » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:48 pm

WowGain wrote:
overtyped wrote:chat gpt pedo shit


you asked chat gpt to write up an argument for child-rape

That aint chatgpt my lad. I pulled it from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Brazil/comment ... l_soo_low/
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby WowGain » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:49 pm

overtyped wrote:reddit pedo shit


sorry, let me correct myself

you copy pasted a defense of child rape from reddit.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Austinh15 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:50 pm

WowGain wrote:
overtyped wrote:reddit pedo shit


sorry, let me correct myself

you copy pasted a defense of child rape from reddit.




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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby wolf1000wolf » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:51 pm

Austinh15 wrote:
wolf1000wolf wrote:The problem with misa's detractors is people keep misusing words like "pedophile" and "rape".

Pedophilia is sexual attraction towards prepubescent children.

Rape is non-consensual sexual assault. Wikipedia describes it as " The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority, or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, has an intellectual disability, or is below the legal age of consent (statutory rape)."

Misa engaged in neither of these acts unless we know the 15 year old was drunk/unconscious.

Sure, most people would consider a 22 year old having sex with a 15 year old morally problematic but extreme hyperbole doesn't help your argument.



Age of consent is technically 14 in brazil, however the idea of age of consent is to identify when a person is able to consent right? If they can't consent due to age, then what would you call it?

Of course, the argument here is also that 14 is way too low for an actively developing child.


You're one of the few people here being rationale and not just resorting to personal attacks out of moral outrage.

I assume you mean "can't consent due to age" to mean a 15 year old isn't mentally developed enough to make decisions about having sex?
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby overtyped » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:52 pm

WowGain wrote:
overtyped wrote:reddit pedo shit


sorry, let me correct myself

you copy pasted a defense of child rape from reddit.

Lmao, no, someone asked why the age of consent is as it is, and a guy claiming to be a lawyer explains the law.
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