Coronavirus

[Burinn]

Can we talk about disease again instead of Jalpha's doomsday cult stuff

[MagicManICT]

There are many others like you but you don't fit into society? Lmao I don't think you know how this society thing works. You may not be a "homosexual trap worshiping liberal" but you certainly are a simp cuck. You're too simple to know how society works and you're such a cuck that you would rather futilely run away instead of sort out your problems. If someone needs to setup a new frontier for mankind, it shouldn't be you. You wouldn't be able to handle it.

See, I don't even want to read your posts because of this kind of bullshit. You hide real persuasion behind childish insults. Drop the bullshit and people might be interested in what you have to say. Do you actually have something important to say, because I didn't see anything other than "you don't know," "you're dumb," etc, which are typically insults used by people who don't really know things themselves.

Get woke, my friend! There's a real mental health crisis in the world where people who have serious disorders can't get the treatment they need. These are the types of people who don't fit into society. Mostly because the rest of society is barely sane themselves and can't stand the presence of destabilizing personalities.

Can we talk about disease again instead of Jalpha's doomsday cult stuff

Anyone have anything that is actually new?

I did see an article about Venice... the canals are full of wildlife again--fish, crabs, swans, etc. Why? There isn't a bunch of tourists coming through in motorboats stirring up all the mud in the canals and lagoon.

[xdragonlord18]

There are many others like you but you don't fit into society? Lmao I don't think you know how this society thing works. You may not be a "homosexual trap worshiping liberal" but you certainly are a simp cuck. You're too simple to know how society works and you're such a cuck that you would rather futilely run away instead of sort out your problems. If someone needs to setup a new frontier for mankind, it shouldn't be you. You wouldn't be able to handle it.

See, I don't even want to read your posts because of this kind of bullshit. You hide real persuasion behind childish insults. Drop the bullshit and people might be interested in what you have to say. Do you actually have something important to say, because I didn't see anything other than "you don't know," "you're dumb," etc, which are typically insults used by people who don't really know things themselves.

I address people in a fashion that I feel they deserve. Jalpha has the mindset of a prepubescent teen so he gets a response in kind. I'm not going to waste my time writing out a well constructed argument when I don't believe he is even self aware enough to participate properly. It would be like trying to have a deep conversation about the meaning of life with an 11 year old. They just aren't developed enough, as a person, for a conversation like that to go anywhere. If one of your driving beliefs is that society sucks and that it's wronged you then you really haven't given it much thought. Society isn't a static entity and he is as much part of society as I, or anyone else, is and yet we've all managed to not get "marginalized". The common factor in all the situations where he sees himself marginalized, is himself. He also seems to think that an entire generation is some rigid grouping of people who all act and think similarly and have a collective will or leader. If you're making a claim like "<insert generation here> created the resource shortage" then you ought to expect insults at best because the very notion that you can account for all the variables needed to make a claim that simple is, frankly, absurd.

Get woke, my friend! There's a real mental health crisis in the world where people who have serious disorders can't get the treatment they need. These are the types of people who don't fit into society. Mostly because the rest of society is barely sane themselves and can't stand the presence of destabilizing personalities.

I appreciate your insinuation that Jalpha has a mental illness however he appears more than lucid enough to not be thinking the nonsense that he appears to think. Being unwilling to grow up is not a mental illness. I would say that the reason people dislike the mentally ill is because a mentally ill person becomes unpredictable. You can't easily account for how they're going to act and so they appear dangerous. It's the reason one gives a homeless person yelling on the side of the street a wide berth. Additionally, due to their differing dispositions, social interactions become more laborious and difficult which doesn't help.

[AtoB]

Jalpha has the mindset of a prepubescent teen so he gets a response in kind.

Which makes you an even bigger idiot than what you think he is.

Quantity over quality.

Goes for both of you.

@Green men, would you please clean this up?

[Jalpha]

Well mental health is almost on-topic. Maybe we will end up steering the conversation in a full circle.

I consider mental health to be a money making scam (and worse). It wouldn't be the first time posters here have suggested I seek mental health support and I explained myself way back then. I doubt much has changed in my opinions. Just take a look at colesie lmao. Just imagine taking life advice from him! The whole trade is a huge joke. Send them at me. All I need is a recording device in the interview. I'll post it on youtube afterwards. When I served in the defence force I had to attend sessions with psychologists and here I am, still roaming free. Guess it isn't me who has the mental health problems. Projection?

However personally, I consider a fear response to alternative ideas perfectly normal behaviour. This shitshow of a society needs to be destabilised. It's collapsing slowly anyway.

To further dig the boot in... Nicolaus Copernicus and assorted others. Enough said. If a virus had come along and wiped out all the fools who refused to believe his theories we might be six generations further ahead in the sciences.

Can't touch this.

[VDZ]

However personally, I consider a fear response to alternative ideas perfectly normal behaviour.

I, too, think that fear is an appropriate response to the notion that we should genocide an entire generation of our own citizens.

I address people in a fashion that I feel they deserve. Jalpha has the mindset of a prepubescent teen so he gets a response in kind. I'm not going to waste my time writing out a well constructed argument when I don't believe he is even self aware enough to participate properly. It would be like trying to have a deep conversation about the meaning of life with an 11 year old. They just aren't developed enough, as a person, for a conversation like that to go anywhere.

Then why bother wasting your time writing out an argument at all? If you're going to bother writing an argument, write it such that the reader(s) may find it convincing; if you half-ass it, you haven't convinced anyone but still wasted your time.

[Jalpha]

a) I never said that. I simply indicated that this boomer annihilating virus has the potential to remove a large portion of the population who seem, from my perspective and experiences, to be holding back progress.
b) Suggest an alternative or,
c) Provide evidence that I am wrong.

So far the best retort to my anti-boomer rhetoric was made on Discord by somebody who said that Elon Musk is a boomer and further logic determines that a lot of boomers share his dreams. Batteries are a dumb idea but ok. WTB methane fuel cells.

This forum has not even done that much to shift my ideologies.

[MagicManICT]

I appreciate your insinuation that Jalpha has a mental illness however he appears more than lucid enough to not be thinking the nonsense that he appears to think.

Maybe you don't know much about mental illness, then. The "fun fact" about psychology is that only around 51% of the people of the world are "normal." The rest have an existing condition of some degree of severity. Most are mild and acute, some are chronic and severe, and will persist most of their lives. Some of the smartest people in the world have some form of mental health disorder. One could even say most, as high intelligence usually comes at a cost of being able to function in "normal society.

As for the rest: remember the golden rule--treat others as you'd have them treat you. If you want them to come at you with insults and low intelligence arguments, then just keep on doing what you've been doing, and that's all you get in return. As I learned as a 10 year old child--Garbage in, garbage out.

And have a conversation with some kids... you'd be surprised at what kinds of insights they might have. Sure, they will be simple and with some level of naivete, but they can be extremely deep and profound, too. You're likely to have some of your own one day, and it'll be of great benefit to them if you understand them a bit better. (Also, one of the signs of many forms of mental health is "being stuck" at that early teen, even pubescent level of thinking.)

boomer annihilating virus

But it isn't really? The death toll is still under 5% when proper care is provided. They're simply more likely to need intensive care when they do get it. It's the elderly--the Greatest Generation--that are most at risk. The oldest boomers are only in their 70s. Also worth noting that a large portion of the world is controlled by such people. Random death (pandemics, war) is never a good way to transition this kind of power. It's disruptive and usually causes much more harm than is necessary.

Provide evidence that I am wrong

You haven't really proven your point. Maybe in your mind you have. If what you say cannot be supported by commonly accepted practices of logic and reason, then the issue isn't with everyone else. It's with you.

I consider mental health to be a money making scam (and worse). It wouldn't be the first time posters here have suggested I seek mental health support and I explained myself way back then.

I'm not going to say "go get help." I agree that sort of help can be a money sink and wasted time. I'm simply going to say the burden of proving to others why you are right is on you. I admit my own shortcomings in this. When I am able to express what I'm thinking effectively, I usually come out as right, or can see where my logic fails and can correct myself.

euthanasia

Which is exactly what is being argued here. Let's not hide behind "coronavirus is a good thing because..." Wisdom only comes with experience--experience earned with decades of living. Some of the greatest thoughts only come from those who would be labeled as "boomer". I'll agree with you that it should be an option when it comes to diseases like dementia and Alzheimer's, but it should be up to the family, and not the society. It's like trying to argue if abortion is right or wrong. You're trying to make what should be an individual decision for everyone. (And no, I'm not trying to bring that conversation up, but I really can't think of any better analogy.) Sure, you can point out a bunch of philosophy and religion on the matter to support it, but it doesn't change the fact that it is an arbitrary decision, or prove it's right, as a ton of more educated people than most of us have argued the matter.

[jordancoles]

I consider mental health to be a money making scam (and worse). It wouldn't be the first time posters here have suggested I seek mental health support and I explained myself way back then. I doubt much has changed in my opinions. Just take a look at colesie lmao. Just imagine taking life advice from him! The whole trade is a huge joke. Send them at me. All I need is a recording device in the interview. I'll post it on youtube afterwards. When I served in the defence force I had to attend sessions with psychologists and here I am, still roaming free. Guess it isn't me who has the mental health problems. Projection?

Good counselling isn't about dumping advice on to people. We actually actively avoid advice-giving and kick ourselves if we catch ourselves doing it. The point is to use open ended questions without using leading questions so that the person can find the answer to their problems that works best for themselves. Ideally, you create your treatment plan with the help of a counsellor who is able to take your thoughts into uncomfortable directions that you either hadn't considered or had been pushing aside due to fear/guilt/etc. Counsellors open the floor for conversations. If your counsellor is telling you exactly what to do and where to go, you should get a different one because everyone's life is different and they have no clue based on 4h of sessions if their decision is right/safe for you to follow.

As far as money-making goes, some therapists charge hundreds of dollars per session basically to just hear the person's story and to send them on their way. I agree that's sorta bullshit and if my agency wasn't a free community service, I wouldn't feel comfortable with doing what I do. We offer up to 12 sessions (more if you need it) for free and have been that way for nearly half a century.

Also you saying that you're not locked up after your counselling sessions is actually hilarious to me. If you think that going to counselling is an interrogation then you'll never benefit from it and aren't in the headspace to actually get anything out of it.

Also also, counselling is meant to be a mutual trust agreement between the person and their counsellor. Recording the session without making that known to the counsellor is a good way to be blacklisted and posting it on yt would likely make you look like the asshole, not the other way around as you're envisioning it

[Burinn]

Jalpha is a caricature of himself.