Coronavirus

[Jalpha]

Only taking age into account you are practically immune to covid-19 until the age of 40.

The amount of CT scans showing Covid-19 in lungs of younger than 40 i've seen tells me different ...

Any data to share? I have been avoiding media which does not have sound references.

Regardless let us now do a short lesson on statistics.



More people died in this year from car accidents once age related health issues are removed. So, in a developed nation, your chances of dying in a car accident is greater than 1%. Every time you go near a motorway, catch public transport or ride in a car or vehicle of any kind... You have a greater chance of dying from a vehicular incident than you have of dying if you catch coronavirus and you are below the age of 40.

Economic problems impact those closest to retirement or living on retirement savings significantly more than it impacts those that are able to still work and save for the future.

I disagree with most of what you state for two main reasons; The compounding interest standpoint for a start. Then I am going to state plainly that if you are elderly and failed to take advantage of the excess of oportunity in your younger years then you have sealed your own fate. This is ironic to me because of the well known boomer meme where they are hassling young people for not already owning property like they all did by my age. Their lives were so much easier than ours.

Imagine the crazy ratio of men to women after the war. Just imagine the resulting population explosion and the post war economic boom. Respect is earned, it is not an entitlement. If the older generations expect respect they had bloody well better begin earning it or just get out of our way. Like now. Just stop voting. Thanks.

[shubla]

Regardless let us now do a short lesson on statistics.

Lies, damned lies, statistics.

Even if more people die because of hunger or malaria, that doesn't mean that other causes of death could be just ignored.

Coronavirus is not going to cause any economic problems, except for very temporary ones in some countries, but not any long term. Because why would it? Supply is not going anywhere, demand is not going anywhere, workers not going anywhere, buyers not going anywhere... There is no need to worry. More money can be printed if we run out of it!

[Jalpha]

Young people die more often in vehicular accidents than any other cause of death of which I am aware. Yet the government has not increased the age at which people can start driving or heavily restricted access to motorways and vehicles. A more fitting analogy might be just banning cars until the statistics for people dying from car accidents ends. Shutting down the global economy (because of a death rate which doesn't seem to go above 2% if you live in a country with actual healthcare) seems to my mind an equally ridiculous situation.

As an aside I would like to mention a fairly recent movie you can find on netflix called "The Platform". If anyone has an interest take a look at it. My interpretation is that the facility in that movie is a representation of the current societal model. With the levels representing different generations. As the platform moves down providing the prisoners with food, the people on the higher levels glut themselves without regard for those below.

I hope you are right and the wizards will pull some economic sorcery out of the hat. My skeptical nature can already see a few hairs from the rabbits head sticking out of the hat. I don't think we are going to get magic. I think we are going to get some useless but very white and shiny rabbit instead. Mmm very distracting rabbit...

[Mario_Demorez]

You are not very good at comparisons. You can’t compare a pandemic to car accidents. If you slow down the spread of it pandemic you can spend the extra time finding more about the virus such as a vaccine or treatment. If you slow down car accidents by banning cars for a while you probably would get the opposite effect, more car accidents once cars are unbanned due to the lack of experience. Banning cars doesn’t fix shitty drivers. Restricting spread of a virus DOES help fight a virus.

I just read all your replies to this thread and I have come to the conclusion you have zero logic skills or knowledge of anything you tried to talk about. Almost everything you posted is wrong or has a logical fallacy. Do you have some sort of paranoia that old people are out to get you? What are you? A 23 year Netflix expert that believes in conspiracy theories and that “the man” is out to get you? It’s funny that you even said everyone’s playing the blame game when I bet you probably don’t accept any of the responsibility of why you are so uneducated and probably doing poorly in life. You are a prime example of why stupidity is the major cause of most human deaths.

[VDZ]

Shutting down the global economy (because of a death rate which doesn't seem to go above 2% if you live in a country with actual healthcare) seems to my mind an equally ridiculous situation.

The problem is that healthcare has limited capacity, and if the virus spreads too quickly the death rate will be well above 2% because there's not enough capacity to treat everyone.

If you slow down car accidents by banning cars for a while you probably would get the opposite effect, more car accidents once cars are unbanned due to the lack of experience. Banning cars doesn’t fix shitty drivers.

Permanently restricting usage of cars (e.g. only for trained professionals, or only under certain circumstances/in certain locations) does reduce death toll, though. But it's not going to happen even though so many people are dying because it would have too much of an economic impact. Given that, corona lockdowns are notable as the predicted economic impact of having the virus spread freely is larger than the economic impact of a lockdown (which is a far cry from 'shutting down the economy', mind you). If it weren't, as with cars, they'd just let people die to keep the economy going.

[shubla]

What comes to traffic deaths...
There have been major efforts to reduce them since maybe when the cars started to become common...
Safety belts (even being in cars), speed limits, traffic signage, training of drivers, numerous modifications to car structure... These have decreased traffic deaths massively, and still do.

If we reduce cases of traffic deaths where there was alcohol/drugs/being way too tiredto drive etc. involved, and take into account the age and condition of the car, we see that chances to die in traffic are quite slim, if you are actively trying to avoid it by not driving under influence of any substance, not driving really old shitty cars tired etc. etc.

[VDZ]

if you are actively trying to avoid it by not driving under influence of any substance

The big problem is that you will die because some other jackass decided to drink and drive. That's why you can't just filter the statistics like that; it's not just people killing themselves by being dumb, a lot of it is people killing other people by being dumb.

[shubla]

if you are actively trying to avoid it by not driving under influence of any substance

The big problem is that you will die because some other jackass decided to drink and drive. That's why you can't just filter the statistics like that; it's not just people killing themselves by being dumb, a lot of it is people killing other people by being dumb.

Minority of cases that happens. Best solution is of course to use trains.

[AtoB]

Only taking age into account you are practically immune to covid-19 until the age of 40.

The amount of CT scans showing Covid-19 in lungs of younger than 40 i've seen tells me different ...

Please elaborate.

[jordancoles]

Canada hasn't been hit as badly as they were projecting so far, BC specifically is doing really well compared to other places. People in my town are starting to push the boundaries of social distancing/staying indoors now and a LOT of conspiracy posts are popping up in our local social medias etc...

I feel like if there's a second wave of this over the summer it might be more of a problem if the first wave hadn't really hit people personally