Haven and Racism

[Vaku]

I think that racism is gotten from the experience. Not from the other way around.

People are naturally nasty

I do not think so. I am sad for you to think this one.

You've never seen a child do something wrong which that child was never taught to do—for instance, hitting another?

The only circumstance where hitting another is seen as acceptable, is if for some reason you thought hitting was justifiable, and thereby not "nasty" or naughty behavior.

"Nasty," is my off-the-cuff way of saying: anger is real, and some people have a better time at suppressing or rarely feeling anger over other people who may have hair-triggers.

Taking the amoral road is one of the few ways of excusing the reality that there are bad behaviors—and amorality isn't something that's 100% cohesive in the context you're living in (with a family, a home, a community, friends, etc).

[Ysh]

People are naturally nasty

I do not think so. I am sad for you to think this one.

You've never seen a child do something wrong which that child was never taught to do—for instance, hitting another?

The only circumstance where hitting another is seen as acceptable, is if for some reason you thought hitting was justifiable, and thereby not "nasty" or naughty behavior.

"Nasty," is my off-the-cuff way of saying: anger is real, and some people have a better time at suppressing or rarely feeling anger over other people who may have hair-triggers.

Taking the amoral road is one of the few ways of excusing the reality that there are bad behaviors—and amorality isn't something that's 100% cohesive in the context you're living in (with a family, a home, a community, friends, etc).

If I will do something you see as wrong, I am a nasty person? I think we cannot be operating using the same definition words for these discussion. Men can have angry emotion. This does not make men naturally nasty. It is with the same logic to stating ''men can feel joy, men are naturally good.'' This will be a non sequitur.

the reality that there are bad behaviors

You will be a moral absolutist? Who will set these morals?

[borka]

I really think that we as a forum community should do something to combat the increasing levels of racism that are present across the forum. -snip-

No not really - the few real racists get sorted out very fast ... most of it is just "namecalling" and loudmouthing by young white males ... sure i'd often like a polite tone at forums but hey it's their playground where we are just tolerated ... ( ) so really nothing to worry about ...

Ingame i only can remember one time (World5) that there where people acting in a real racist way ("funny" enough from the same country as me) in an area which had players from all countries (that are playing HnH) who socialized in a good way ... they got busted in a concentrated efford ...

I'm sure if we'd all meet in RL it'd be a really great party ...

[Ysh]

I'm sure if we'd all meet in RL it'd be a really great party ...

Havencon when?

[Vaku]

If I will do something you see as wrong, I am a nasty person? I think we cannot be operating using the same definition words for these discussion. Men can have angry emotion. This does not make men naturally nasty. It is with the same logic to stating ''men can feel joy, men are naturally good.'' This will be a non sequitur.

"Homo sum, humani nil a me alienum puto."

You will be a moral absolutist? Who will set these morals?

This is neither the thread nor time to discuss this. Join VIðarrheim, or add my HS, and we can talk ingame—because I'd rather be doing that, than tabbing to the forum to keep chatting.

[borka]

I'm sure if we'd all meet in RL it'd be a really great party ...

Havencon when?

The idea was there but sadly it's difficult to find a location that suits all (travelcosts, visa etc.)

[CSPAN]

Malmo, duh

[Ysh]

If I will do something you see as wrong, I am a nasty person? I think we cannot be operating using the same definition words for these discussion. Men can have angry emotion. This does not make men naturally nasty. It is with the same logic to stating ''men can feel joy, men are naturally good.'' This will be a non sequitur.

"Homo sum, humani nil a me alienum puto."

You will be a moral absolutist? Who will set these morals?

This is neither the thread nor time to discuss this. Join VIðarrheim, or add my HS, and we can talk ingame—because I'd rather be doing that, than tabbing to the forum to keep chatting.

I'm afraid I have a pledge to some other factions for the moment, so to join is not a possible. Some in-game chatting can't be bad for me, though. You can PM me some secrets of yours? Or is this listed in some location already?

[jorb]

/thread.

Hel.