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Re: Coronavirus

Postby shubla » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:27 pm

In Japan, they decided to just give out free money to people. 100 000 yen to each citizen, around 1000usd that is.
Also many other supports, such as additional money to students, families with children, like 80 000 usd support to rents of small companies if they are running out of money, thousands of usd support for salaries of workers of small companies... Ability to pay taxes few years later, temporary exemption from all loan interests of small companies for few years..

Must be nice having your own currency!

Meanwhile in FInland, instead of giving money to our citizens, we are giving money to "more suffered" countries in the EU such as spain and others!
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby dafels » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:47 pm

shubla wrote:Meanwhile in FInland, instead of giving money to our citizens, we are giving money to "more suffered" countries in the EU such as spain and others!

That is actually a good way to do it. The gains to Finland over long term will be much higher than the Finland has given away. The short term solution to giving money away to business that will be on life support for next multiple years is shitty. Free space for the business that are adapted to the new situation we are in.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby AtoB » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:27 pm

shubla wrote:In Japan, they decided to just give out free money to people.
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Must be nice having your own currency!

Ask the USofA. But honestly I prefer the approach of Japan (giving money to the general population) to the one of the US (spending it on war and weapons while selling the lie that trickle down improves life everyone to keep th population docile).

Meanwhile in FInland, instead of giving money to our citizens, we are giving money to "more suffered" countries in the EU such as spain and others!

Still better than spending it on weapons and war.

The virus has mutated here in germany, it's now more dangerous outside than inside... at least according to the measures implemented here in the last week. But a good part of the population is more and more coming to the conclusion that the measures are random nonsense. Another month or three and the real bioweapon can be released, when no one will listen to government anymore when they claim that a killer virus is among us... this time for real.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby AntiBlitz » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:54 pm

AtoB wrote:
shubla wrote:In Japan, they decided to just give out free money to people.
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Must be nice having your own currency!

Ask the USofA. But honestly I prefer the approach of Japan (giving money to the general population) to the one of the US (spending it on war and weapons while selling the lie that trickle down improves life everyone to keep th population docile).

Meanwhile in FInland, instead of giving money to our citizens, we are giving money to "more suffered" countries in the EU such as spain and others!

Still better than spending it on weapons and war.

The virus has mutated here in germany, it's now more dangerous outside than inside... at least according to the measures implemented here in the last week. But a good part of the population is more and more coming to the conclusion that the measures are random nonsense. Another month or three and the real bioweapon can be released, when no one will listen to government anymore when they claim that a killer virus is among us... this time for real.



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Re: Coronavirus

Postby jordancoles » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:55 pm

dafels wrote:Free space for the business that are adapted to the new situation we are in.

This is sort of how I'm looking at it too for the most part.
Businesses that don't adapt to Zoom/distancing aren't going to make it over the next 2-3 years. I understand that some can't do that and there are always exceptions. I'm sure some bailouts and supports are justified, but even bakeries and other businesses that require in-person staff have hired delivery drivers and upped testing/masks for staff to keep on going
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Jalpha » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:36 pm

Well. To put it one way. Do you think people and business would ever have made the move to working from home if there was never any pandemic? Do people really need to be burning fossil fuels and placing strain on public transport infrastructure if their work can be done from home? Most of these meal delivery services I have seen are using bicycles.

I maintain that there is a silver lining to this dark cloud and it shows its colours in many ways. There is potential for the world to change for the better. And so long as it's mostly boomers who keep dying all the better.

I mean aside from being thrown out of eastern Europe very little has changed in my life. I just went out and ate at an Indian restaurant, delicious food, good beer, fairly cheap. I had half the restaurant to myself. Half a dozen delivery cyclists stopped by to collect take away orders... You know I kind of like it like this.

That being said winter is coming and I am expecting some uncomfortable months ahead until the sun returns.

People are always resistant to change. Hopefully good things come of this pandemic as the meager 98% of us emerge alive.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Zentetsuken » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:28 am

Jalpha wrote:And so long as it's mostly boomers who keep dying all the better.


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Y'all are the factory farmed hens pecking at the conveyor belt of information being fed to you. In so many ways the behaviour of so many people resembles factory farmed hens. I'd go so far as to mention the allegory of the cave but it would do no good.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Jalpha » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:39 pm

Allow me to enlighten you my dear chicken brained associate.

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Promising stuff. Seems like corona has really driven the fear into the boomers who survived the pandemic (most of them in Australia anyway.)

We are seeing a shift in the voter pool. Enough that hope for meaningful positive change is starting to look possible. For the first time in my life I feel a glimmermoss of hope for the future.

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I will toast you to a bright new future with the right kind of boomers in it. Don't aspire to be a boomer wannabe and become part of the problem instead of part of the solution. There are more important concerns than your hedonistic perversions and machiavellian tendencies.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Zentetsuken » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:01 pm

Not sure what your post has to do with anything, let alone coronavirus.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-28/ ... g/12764874

The progressive think tank polled nearly 2,000 adults over a week in July.


No mention of boomers, they polled only 2000 adults, could have all been millenials for all you know.
Also, the second graph only accounts for barely 60% of the results. Seems that they did not publish all the answers and cherrypicked their own data.
The data shows that the majority of these random 2000 australian adults do not believe we are experiencing the effects of climate change very much.

The article also links to and talks about another much more professional and exhaustive set of poll datas that show that people are not willing to take action against climate change.

Did you cherrypick data from this site to try and prove some kind of point that nobody was arguing against, or did you just not read the whole thing?

Very strange behaviour.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Jalpha » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:27 pm

Who knows man, maybe nobody cares at all and I just want to believe. Maybe more boomers need to go to shift the statistics in the right direction. I'd thank you for being so depressing and entirely missing the point as well but I'm really not thankful at all.

Good to see you can use your brain (or seek assistance from those who can) but I'm a little concerned that you waited till this time and this angle of the conversation to make use of it.
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