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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Austinh15 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:53 pm

wolf1000wolf wrote:
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wolf1000wolf wrote:The problem with misa's detractors is people keep misusing words like "pedophile" and "rape".

Pedophilia is sexual attraction towards prepubescent children.

Rape is non-consensual sexual assault. Wikipedia describes it as " The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority, or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, has an intellectual disability, or is below the legal age of consent (statutory rape)."

Misa engaged in neither of these acts unless we know the 15 year old was drunk/unconscious.

Sure, most people would consider a 22 year old having sex with a 15 year old morally problematic but extreme hyperbole doesn't help your argument.



Age of consent is technically 14 in brazil, however the idea of age of consent is to identify when a person is able to consent right? If they can't consent due to age, then what would you call it?

Of course, the argument here is also that 14 is way too low for an actively developing child.


You're one of the few people here being rationale and not just resorting to personal attacks out of moral outrage.

I assume you mean "can't consent due to age" to mean a 15 year old isn't mentally developed enough to make decisions about having sex?


To a degree yes, but it's also to prevent people older/more mature people than them to groom them into those actions. This is a law of protection not an auction house.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Apocoreo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:53 pm

Waaaahhh! Waaahhhhh!

*the crying give way to horrible sqelching sounds as I tear a baby in half*

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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Apocoreo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:54 pm

Austinh15 wrote:To a degree yes, but it's also to prevent people older/more mature people than them to groom them into those actions. This is a law of protection not an auction house.


You shouldn't argue the legality of it. It doesn't matter.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Dawidio123 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:55 pm

Guys I agree with everyone here calling them on their shit. But this is a literal low effort provocation on the REDACTED defenders part. And this thread once again will be deleted into void just like they want. It's not a new strat. Just think how many times they sicc bob dole on threads they dont like to shit it up completely while robben dms jorb about it. Then the thread goes poof because of alleged "bullying/doxxing/etc." because we all know jorb will at most skim through the whole thing instead of reading it, and like half of it is nocock and bob tard shittin up up provoking ppl into calling them what they are. I unironically will buy you the plastic bag.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby overtyped » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:57 pm

Dawidio123 wrote:Guys I agree with everyone here calling them on their shit. But this is a literal low effort provocation on the REDACTED defenders part. And this thread once again will be deleted into void just like they want. It's not a new strat. Just think how many times they sicc bob dole on threads they dont like to shit it up completely while robben dms jorb about it. Then the thread goes poof because of alleged "bullying/doxxing/etc." because we all know jorb will at most skim through the whole thing instead of reading it, and like half of it is nocock and bob tard shittin up up provoking ppl into calling them what they are. I unironically will buy you the plastic bag.

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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby Zentetsuken » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:01 pm

daily reminder that bobdole is an adult man who likely has a family that he reports back to, flustered and aggravated, after spending hours a day engaging in conversations about this topic
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby WowGain » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:06 pm

Zentetsuken wrote:daily reminder that bobdole is an adult man who likely has a family that he reports back to, flustered and aggravated, after spending hours a day engaging in conversations about this topic

i sincerely fucking hope not just so i dont have to picture a world where this guy has people that are at all emotionally or physically reliant on him
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby wolf1000wolf » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:13 pm

Austinh15 wrote:To a degree yes, but it's also to prevent people older/more mature people than them to groom them into those actions. This is a law of protection not an auction house.


Mm makes sense. I wish people would stick to correct terms like "Statutory rape", "grooming", "sexual predator", or even "fucking creep".

Most people arguing against misa's actions seem to think that words don't matter. Which is very odd but I guess that's online discourse.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby grumgrumganoe » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:15 pm

wolf1000wolf wrote:
Austinh15 wrote:To a degree yes, but it's also to prevent people older/more mature people than them to groom them into those actions. This is a law of protection not an auction house.


Mm makes sense. I wish people would stick to correct terms like "Statutory rape", "grooming", "sexual predator", or even "fucking creep".

Most people arguing against misa's actions seem to think that words don't matter. Which is very odd but I guess that's online discourse.

“pedophile” is still accurate.
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Re: Official Losers of World 15 - Children!

Postby WowGain » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:22 pm

vatas wrote:Maybe my standards "proper effort to cancel someone" are too high from consuming petty internet drama, but there have been something crazy like 50-page Google docs of random vtuber A ranting about how random vtuber B is an evil toxic poophead.

People supposedly concerned about child predation did not bother to create a single comprehensive Imgur gallery (or at least not properly link it anywhere.)


vatas you motherfucker i literally told you, the last time this kind of thread got made, exactly what dawdio is telling you here and you ACKNOWLEDGED IT THEN.

why are you doing the braindead debate-bro shit where you reuse an argument that you have already admitted to yourself as being debunked.

https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=76377&p=941712#p941715
https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=76377&start=50#p941816
https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=76377&start=50#p941831
https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=76377&start=50#p941835
https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=76377&start=60#p941843
https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=76377&start=60#p941844

we already went over this with you vatas.
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