3 wizards down, should i be worried?

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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Zeler » Thu May 19, 2016 11:39 am

Now they will gather their russian friends and spam you with 7+ archers.
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby ChildhoodObesity » Thu May 19, 2016 12:13 pm

maslov2 wrote:Belive me, if i would take my mellee fighter you would also cry about imbalance. Because it would took me even less time to KO you both.

i can guarantee u i wouldnt lose on mc fight i dont thnk i would lose to anyone in whole game in 1v1 mc fight lel
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby ChildhoodObesity » Thu May 19, 2016 12:15 pm

Amanda44 wrote:
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Amanda44 wrote:You killed them in combat? Not alone though I take it ... I wish ppl would give more details in moot threads, lol, I want to know how many it took, was the fight easy or hard and how you did it, just with a bow? ... Anyway, good job saving your village. :)

R.I.P Onep.

this guys an archer god lol idk i expect an archer nerf shouldnt be possible to run 4th speed on horse and maintain 60% aim and stop 0.2 second and got like 90%

also onep died alone on ground without a horse to an archer

i died with another one on horses to the archer we were building siege equipment and he came and 1shot my pal instantly and then i was running trying to drop shit to equip sword and was like 15 tiles away zigzagging on 3rd speed horse and he shot me for like 500dmg and then he missed once and shot me for 500 again within like 30seconds lol
as some pretty pro archery, but i dont think it should be a thing at all to be able to maintain this aim % while sprinting or 3rd speed horse and shit,,,, didnt expect to ever die this world in combat tbh

but u shud prob be worried bro!!!!!!!! next time u wont be so luky!!!!!


Thanks ... :) ... and yes, it does seem very op, I know you have good stat chars so it does seem archery damage could possibly be reduced ... not that I'm an expert ofc.
Also, sorry you died Troll but, in fairness, you did start it, lol. :)

you dont know the situation very well, they saw onep and killed him instantly we decided we would siege htem for this and we still will in time
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby ChildhoodObesity » Thu May 19, 2016 12:18 pm

DisKagel wrote:Why should archery be nerfed? You attempted to raid him, and he successfully defended himself. No nerfing needed

it should be nerfed because if 4 ppl are chasing u and ur running away u can ko all 4 of them in like 30seconds anyone who thinks the aim bar should be loading so high while running that fast on a horse has no idea how this game works its literally so fukn broken that someone with 330 agi str con ua and mc could die in 3 seconds to a 150mm archer lel theres no way u can even defend against archers,,,,,,, im fine with archers doing this high of damage but im not fine at all with the fact that they can do it and aim this fast while sprinting on a horse its bullshit i think everyone who is currently using the combat system who isnt an op archer will agree this is bullshit and i know archers who will even agree tbh
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby shadowchris » Thu May 19, 2016 12:34 pm

DisKagel wrote:Why should archery be nerfed? You attempted to raid him, and he successfully defended himself. No nerfing needed

Just because he was the defendant doesn't mean shit. Being able to maintain any kind of aim meter while moving is dumb as hell
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Enjoyment » Thu May 19, 2016 12:51 pm

shadowchris wrote:
DisKagel wrote:Why should archery be nerfed? You attempted to raid him, and he successfully defended himself. No nerfing needed

Just because he was the defendant doesn't mean shit. Being able to maintain any kind of aim meter while moving is dumb as hell

Are U sure?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk
And remember - this is just a man. Not a mythical god-like Archer, which is >200MM character represents...
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Zeler » Thu May 19, 2016 12:53 pm

Enjoyment wrote:
shadowchris wrote:
DisKagel wrote:Why should archery be nerfed? You attempted to raid him, and he successfully defended himself. No nerfing needed

Just because he was the defendant doesn't mean shit. Being able to maintain any kind of aim meter while moving is dumb as hell

Are U sure?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk
And remember - this is just a man. Not a mythical god-like Archer, which is >200MM character represents...


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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Archiplex » Thu May 19, 2016 12:53 pm

DisKagel wrote:Why should archery be nerfed? You attempted to raid him, and he successfully defended himself. No nerfing needed



Let's be real, as a person who's only been an archer for the past year archery's damage is VERY high (not as high as melee combat, but the difference here is that archery bypasses the melee combat system)

With 160ql gear, you have an average damage of 720. 330 perception (but really, people are going to have much higher than that now) that becomes 860(.4).

With only 95% aimbar (with 100 MM, it gets there about after 2 seconds of standing still with a 100ql bow, much less with even higher quality) that deals 776 damage.

Maximum health right now is something around 570 with 330 constitution, possibly higher using the vitality gildings, and decent around (150q) just barely allows you to survive that one shot (with about 50-80 health i believe)

With anything less than that you'll find yourself instantly downed and soon to be dead

But at the same time, if archery damage is going to looked at, i'd want all of combat to be looked at. Archery has it's own ways to be countered (and if you're on a horse, is very easy to do so, just run around instead of straight at them- even extremeely high MM will have trouble aiming at you)
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Archiplex » Thu May 19, 2016 12:57 pm

Enjoyment wrote:
shadowchris wrote:
DisKagel wrote:Why should archery be nerfed? You attempted to raid him, and he successfully defended himself. No nerfing needed

Just because he was the defendant doesn't mean shit. Being able to maintain any kind of aim meter while moving is dumb as hell

Are U sure?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk
And remember - this is just a man. Not a mythical god-like Archer, which is >200MM character represents...



Man don't star with this video again

this isn't real archery, this is trick-archery, which is basically for performance at best. Most of the times when the guy fires his arrows they're shot out at extremely low pull weight which hardly manages to pierce wood/the targets (as you can see from how flimsy they are upon immpact) much less any actual form of armor. None of this would be effective in actual combat at all, not even the tidbit about shooting arrows 'faster'.
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Enjoyment » Thu May 19, 2016 1:03 pm

Archiplex wrote:Man don't star with this video again

this isn't real archery, this is trick-archery, which is basically for performance at best. Most of the times when the guy fires his arrows they're shot out at extremely low pull weight which hardly manages to pierce wood/the targets (as you can see from how flimsy they are upon immpact) much less any actual form of armor. None of this would be effective in actual combat at all, not even the tidbit about shooting arrows 'faster'.

Yeap, but his MM is like 10, not 200 ;)
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