Stranger Danger!

by **Grog** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:18 pm

Eraldo03 wrote:Couple of guys killed me and raided my little camp at -38,-82. Too bad. I started playing this game like a week ago and was starting to get the hang of it. I was about to set up my palisade and metal industry. All by myself.
So if you wanna have a go at it and track/summon a nidbane for those baddies, be my guest.

How did they manage to get into you camp?

by **Teleskop** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:22 pm

Grog wrote:
Eraldo03 wrote:Couple of guys killed me and raided my little camp at -38,-82. Too bad. I started playing this game like a week ago and was starting to get the hang of it. I was about to set up my palisade and metal industry. All by myself.
So if you wanna have a go at it and track/summon a nidbane for those baddies, be my guest.

How did they manage to get into you camp?

he didnt had pallisade so i guess thats how

by **Eraldo03** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:19 am

Grog wrote:
Eraldo03 wrote:Couple of guys killed me and raided my little camp at -38,-82. Too bad. I started playing this game like a week ago and was starting to get the hang of it. I was about to set up my palisade and metal industry. All by myself.
So if you wanna have a go at it and track/summon a nidbane for those baddies, be my guest.

How did they manage to get into you camp?

Well. That was my first settlement ever, so my only protection was a roundpole fence and a locked gate.
I was nursing HHP 60 damage because of cave-ins, so I was standing still on the swamp that I called home with leeches on my body to heal the wounds when they came and rekted me with a single slash, because I had like 13 SHP on me.
Then I watched as the guy who killed me, lifted my body, traveled to his hearthfire and dumped me on a pile of corpses.

by **VeryBear** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:33 am

First of all, ladies and gentlemen, please let me entertain you by reminding one episode from the immortal classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZbG7iwRh34#t=3m30s
So, you see, I was wondering if there will be a hypothetical Monthy Python's Lancelot for some stucked newb.

The current situation is: I'm standing on my hearthfire, on the second floor of the house, unable to move a single tile away, because the floor is claimed by someone who revoked permission to move through his claims. Why not trespass it? Because the house is located within' a fresh-built palisade, and keys for the gate were changed, so my character is trapped anyways. Oh, and did I mention that there were three of us, one developed strong character and two newbs, but now only two remain, and guess who is dead, who is guilty and who is sending the message. The scent of murder is still fresh.

Unfortunately, I don't know all the story because I was offline when the event happened, I only know that there were we, two friends, and some friendly stranger who helped us for several days, slightly less than a week probably, and his help seem great, with great advices, relaxed chat and valuable items (in eyes of us, starting players, at least), and we decided to team up, and migrated to the new isolated place, constructed new base... The latter was mainly when I was offline; yesterday I returned to already established place and played for several hours before the sleep. Next morning I knew that my friend's character is dead with the specified reason I can not understand yet and my character is effectively trapped on his fresh spawn point. As for me and friendly stranger, we did not say a word to each other from the time of my migration to the fresh camp. And I would like to not try to discuss things while standing in such, somewhat... vulnerable position.

Before actually call for an action and to name coordinates, I would like to ask: does taking a prisoner such way not contradicts with the rules about game mechanics abusing? And what are my options if not count to someone's help?

Friendly stranger, if you're reading this, I would like to hear your story, if it's more complicated or interesting than "get rekt n00bs I pwnd u"... from the safe distance, now. You see, I did not forget as you were great help and seem to put a good effort in our project. But now... the dead body? Seems like you had a very good time with us.

I apologize for the inevitable abusing of the rules of English grammar.

by **pinheadslim** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:54 pm

Dont worry Bronik, it was not directed at you. I'll change permissions for you to move freely.

I wanted to help you guys, but Art was insistent on being rude. He was being very rude and implied he did all of the work. He was eating all of the food I made, food he can't even make, just to tear down his house because he didn't like the color.

He was using my metal pickaxe, wearing a metal saw and axe I made for him, in clothes I made for him, he was destroying a perfectly good house and wasting food I made doing it, and he had the nerve to say I was rude for pointing out he was wasting food.

Calling me rude after he filled his face with sausages, pies, and other goodies I made was over the line. I said to reconsider, or I would show him rude. He refused, and I killed him. Then he came back and demanded I take everything that was mine and leave the village I had built. So I killed his alt again. He called me a 13 year old no gf forever alone loser, and I just kept asking him if he would like to reconsider his actions.

I am not a griefer, I do not kill noobs for no reason. I helped you guys a lot, and I'm sorry it has come to this but I do not want to live with you guys any more.

Here's nice quote from the chat.

[20:12] ***: You know you just scammed me and stole *MY* village, *MY* furs and leather and *MY* metal.
[20:12] Haha no
[20:12] I made you all the metal tools and all the tin bars :3
[20:12] ***: Metal tools? An axe?

You know I made all of the metal tools in the village, yet here he implies all I ever gave him was an axe. I forged all of the tin before you guys even met me, and I helped him move that huge pile of furs from the dead village he found it at. And he didn't even start processing it, I built drying racks and tanning tubs and got it all going while he was scavenging straw from dead settlements for his favorite roof color.

Also, I built the palisade and gathered the stone/metal for the buildings and pavement, so what part of the village does Art want me to give back? I'd give him everything he produced himself, but the problem is he doesn't produce anything.

by **VeryBear** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:41 pm

Well, as it turned out, I was not brutally murdered when I was logged in, and was allowed to take some (good, as I think, although Art is not agree with me) stuff as a compensation. I heard both stories, and I feel that I do agree more with my buddy than with Pinheadslim, but I glad that the case, which was imagined as most probable at this morning (that we just stumbled upon the person not worthy our trust), seems to be not right. No involvement required, we part without intention to cast boiling lava on each other. Pinheadslim, I would like to apologize I have bringed our case to the moot, as it seemed only way to resolve situation without the risk of being killed.

by **artarctic** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:41 pm

pinheadslim wrote:Art was insistent on being rude. He was being very rude

Unfortunately, my client only saved what I was typing, for some reason, not the full log. However, here is everything I told throughout the session.
Would I be insistent on something, it would be insisting on third person party showing me where I was "very rude" to betray me and commit a crime.

Here is some information / my whining if cares wants to read.

And I am not his first victim. During the week at least twice pinheadslim was not able to log off his character while he was sleeping/offline.

tldr:
Some can only find self-esteem in online games displaying their virtual might and abusing other people, while picking opponents who cannot even fight back. I was thinking pinheadslim isn't one of them. But he has proved I he is.

by **pinheadslim** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:46 pm

Wow, I didn't think you would be so upset that you would edit chat logs. Nice how you removed every instance of you insulting me.

I was very civil the whole time, and was civil with VeryBear. If I was just some griefer I wouldn't have given him many supplies, including the murder scent and a sword in case you still want to come after me.

And no, you did not provide the honey or poppy seeds or even the flour for the many rings of brodgar you ate. I've been making honey buns for you guys since I first met you, because I've had beehives since we first met.

VeryBear understands how much I helped you, he knows it doesn't make sense for me to help you guys so much to just to smack around one of you then let another guy walk off with a good amount of supplies (Metal plow, metal cauldron, anvil, two chests full of metal/food/leather/equipment, boat, cart)

If I was just some selfish jerk out for himself I would have killed him too, just accept that you were killed for being rude to someone who wouldn't take it and that maybe next time someone helps you out a lot, you are a little nicer to them.

by **artarctic** » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:59 pm

pinheadslim wrote:Wow, I didn't think you would be so upset that you would edit chat logs.

I have nothing to hide and nothing to delete. And I understand that a lie is the only way for you to protect yourself. And if you really have something else in your head - go check your own chat logs to freshen your memory on who exacly was rude.
For me - you killed me without a single reason for it. Betrayed me. Stole all I collected and all I built.
In my eyes you have lost the right to be called a human.

For anyone not concerned, I apologize for the mess we made here. I will not feed the troll further.

by **cyrus9586** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:44 am

artarctic wrote:
pinheadslim wrote:Art was insistent on being rude. He was being very rude

Unfortunately, my client only saved what I was typing, for some reason, not the full log. However, here is everything I told throughout the session.

What client? Cause I don't know of a single client that can save logs that will not save the entire log on both sides.

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