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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby overtyped » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:50 am

pedorlee wrote:
Zeler wrote:Gates open, do vclaim. Obvious security flaws.


lol? They declaimed you pclaim with a vclaim? Seems legit

no. The vclaim was new, nothing got declaimed.
Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby ChildhoodObesity » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:50 am

would be nice if the people would actually post about how they did it huehue
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby Sollar » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:58 am

ven wrote:The problem with judging abuses leniently is that it motivates users to exploit grey areas for their own reasons and for great damage. "Was this a bug? Was it not? I don't know, but there's a precedent for leniency so I'll use it without fear of severe punishment".
Overtyped does have a point: how do you restitute a loss of this kind?


In hindsight of the recently Tartaros case, I would not keep my hopes up. Sorry Bob, we did not get even a 5% off the next store purchase. See you next world I guess
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby overtyped » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:03 am

Sollar wrote:
ven wrote:The problem with judging abuses leniently is that it motivates users to exploit grey areas for their own reasons and for great damage. "Was this a bug? Was it not? I don't know, but there's a precedent for leniency so I'll use it without fear of severe punishment".
Overtyped does have a point: how do you restitute a loss of this kind?


In hindsight of the recently Tartaros case, I would not keep my hopes up. Sorry Bob, we did not get even a 5% off the next store purchase. See you next world I guess

not the same.
Leaving a charterstone out in the open is retarded. I had no way to avoid this bug raid, unlike you.
Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby leanne69 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:12 am

overtyped wrote:I took every conceivable precaution here.

overtyped wrote:I had my gates open

Jorb wrote:You might want to explore this implementation carefully, as it may contain bugs, unforseen consequences, or strange edge cases we haven't thought of
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby overtyped » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:14 am

leanne69 wrote:
Jorb wrote:You might want to explore this implementation carefully, as it may contain bugs, unforseen consequences, or strange edge cases we haven't thought of

yup, just like how you should be careful about having walls, because you could get wall jumped :)
Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby Comodo » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:15 am

Well they built a vclaim, and it must have precedence over your pclaim seeing how they didn't get visitor buff here. I wouldn't call this a bug. Just a security flaw on your part. If a village wants to extend their vclaim (or build their own vclaim) to eradicate some personal claim they should be able to.
Like Jorb said
Jorb wrote:This is not to say that any and all attempts to circumvent the visitor debuff would be considered kosher, but at some point we have to draw a line where mechanical problem ends, and reasonable user error begins.


overtyped wrote:I took every conceivable precaution here..

You didn't even bother to lock your gates...
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby tempwad » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:16 am

looks like a visitor debuff abusing
trapped? masturbate.
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby overtyped » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:16 am

Comodo wrote:Well they built a vclaim, and it must have precedence over your pclaim seeing how they didn't get visitor buff here. I wouldn't call this a bug. Just a security flaw on your part. If a village wants to extend their vclaim (or build their own vclaim) to eradicate some personal claim they should be able to.
Like Jorb said
Jorb wrote:This is not to say that any and all attempts to circumvent the visitor debuff would be considered kosher, but at some point we have to draw a line where mechanical problem ends, and reasonable user error begins.

nah, the vclaim is new.
Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
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Re: I just got bug raided, main dead.

Postby Comodo » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:19 am

overtyped wrote:
Comodo wrote:Well they built a vclaim, and it must have precedence over your pclaim seeing how they didn't get visitor buff here. I wouldn't call this a bug. Just a security flaw on your part. If a village wants to extend their vclaim (or build their own vclaim) to eradicate some personal claim they should be able to.
Like Jorb said
Jorb wrote:This is not to say that any and all attempts to circumvent the visitor debuff would be considered kosher, but at some point we have to draw a line where mechanical problem ends, and reasonable user error begins.

nah, the vclaim is new.

Like I said it shouldn't matter if it's an extended vclaim or their own fresh vclaim.
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