The Political Scene

[Robben_DuMarsch]

Vaku doesn't know anything, he's hearing this all second hand.
Besides having the leader's wrong, his recounting of events is factually wrong.

[ven]

^^Then please correct him.

[Jacobian123]

Seems correct to me.

If he's wrong, then why don't you help him out with correcting it?

[Robben_DuMarsch]

I've been pretty forthcoming about events, and you can check my prior posts if you want to hear an accurate recounting. For the sake of detail:

As far as the "Alliances" are concerned, this isn't some static group of old men sitting in a room knocking their dicks together into tied knots. They are fluid, and reflect more of a relationship between villages than a formal arrangement.

It's pretty clear that New Brodgar is allied with Great Houses. We have joint combat operations dating back to forever, and I count among my closest friends members and leaders of Great Houses.

Odditown may claim "alliance" to us, or not, depending on who you ask. Former Brodgarian's are part of Odditown, including one of my two former right hand men (The one not Bob Dole.) We have had people live in Odditown and in New Brodgar with alts, in the past.

It's certainly common knowledge New Brodgar was there for the the offensive siege on DIS (not "AD" as Vaku describes it.), which Odditown organized. We do have some capable combat characters, and they have been used for the "alliance."

As far as the specifics of the countersiege defense, there is an inaccurate post from Algeralith in another thread claiming that nobody from New Brodgar was involved or aware of the counter attack - Perhaps this was the impression he was under. I was in contact with Great Houses leadership that ultimately organized the attack on foot, and I was entirely aware of it. I would have been there in person if I still played and had a combat character. I also could have gotten specific Brodgarians involved, but I knew that our allies had sufficient force and didn't want to risk any spread of information - As I am no longer active in the game itself, I am no longer personally vetting each and every person that joins our inner circle militia, and the few folk I did trust entirely were not available. Our combat leader was not available to do so himself. It's entirely true that New Brodgar is less able to field it's own large combat force without my immediate oversight, and our contributions have been minimal to the "alliances" military operations this world, and all of the success is rightly put at the feet of the Wizards, Great Houses, and Amish Paradise.

As far as the siege on New Brodgar - It should be noted that DIS has attempted to siege us 3 times, at the expense of hundreds of brimstone for their ammunition and their siegeworks and almost a dozen vandal alts.

Further, it wasn't "they almost breached the city."
They did breach the city. They were inside the city when forces counter-attacked. Fortunately, we have several layers of walls, and it takes more than taking down our shield and outer layer of wall to do actual damage. It was precisely the fact that they breached that they were even their on mains, and that their casualty rate was high. DIS/Ainran/Polska wouldn't bring their mains around if they were still hitting on the shield, and when the shield goes down it's not very difficult to attack the underlying palisade

The breach itself was a contingency I had planned with some of the "alliance" leadership since I first learned that DIS were attempting to siege us. We were all entirely aware that the real opportunity to fight would occur when they breached. I had communicated that I believed New Brodgar being breached was our best opportunity to have a decisive fight. This was something we had planned for, I communicated that a breach itself was not actually a problem for us, and that we were entirely willing to let it occur.

What's ultimately important here:
Vaku is a former New Brodgarian that was one of the few we ever had to kick from our ranks. I will say without question that there is definitely, permanent, and irreparable bad blood between myself and Vaku. He's colorfully recounting some events to paint a specific picture. But hey, I'm glad that he's sitting on the sideline trying to chronicle the events of the world as the rest of us write them. You should be aware of the inaccuracies and his conflict of interest, however. This conflict, ultimately, is painfully obvious in his writing.

[NOOBY93]

As far as the "Alliances" are concerned, this isn't some static group of old men sitting in a room knocking their dicks together into tied knots. They are fluid, and reflect more of a relationship between villages than a formal arrangement.

It's pretty clear that New Brodgar is allied with Great Houses. We have joint combat operations dating back to forever, and I count among my closest friends members and leaders of Great Houses.

These 2 are wrong. Firstly, alliances are mostly a static group of autistic kids knocking their dicks together. If someone moves from one village to another in the same alliance nobody bats an eye, but if someone changes alliance it's a big deal, people start to wander what he took, what he leaked, why he did it, etc. They're not very fluid, the same groups of people trust each other for worlds upon worlds.

And Brodgar is not allied with the alliance.
[23-Apr-16 18:53:43] xxx: Why are they our allies?
[23-Apr-16 18:54:50] yyy: I would not use the word allies
[23-Apr-16 18:55:03] yyy: Just people that will hopefully get Dis to come fight

[ChildhoodObesity]

u guys need to understand we only asked brodgar to come to the polska camp and the korean raid which we thought was ainrans village, we only started asking them after they started getting attacked by dis and it was kingtrin and funacious i believe only who came. i wud hardly count this as us being allied 2 them

[Robben_DuMarsch]

Firstly, alliances are mostly a static group of autistic kids knocking their dicks together.

Not at all true.
If by your own definition alliances are something that span multiple worlds, people need only look to the joint combat operations in W8 in which Great Houses and Odditown fighters were in New Brodgar led combat operations.
Trollex himself, above poster, being apart of some of those.

[ChildhoodObesity]

this is true

[Robben_DuMarsch]

this is true

And it's also true we have participated, and will in all likelihood participate again, in Odditown led operations.
After all, there was a period before the top secret sacking of an enemy that 9 New Brodgarians stood alongside our friends and allies from Great Houses and Odditown for 30 minutes, in absolute silence, trust, and secrecy, waiting for Trollex (or was it Endora?) to show up late... during which we posed for a fondly remembered shot. That trust has already been well established, but I absolutely admit New Brodgar is largely sitting on the sideline this world.

In the mean-time, there is still the robust flow of information between all of the parties involved, and varying levels of involvement in combat operations. I have absolutely no doubt if I became active in game again I would be right alongside our Wizard and Russian friends and their great hosts, with whatever capable militia I could muster from New Brodgar.

[Jacobian123]

Could you tell me how you got "bad blood" between yourselves? He seems an amiable enough person to me. Disagreement on leadership? Crimes?