3 wizards down, should i be worried?

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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Pan_w_okularach » Thu May 19, 2016 5:01 pm

both aiming speed and damage should be nerfed
good players were able to get kills at 20 mm and what we have now is ridiculous
left click on your enemy's portait and pretend it takes any skill
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Ozzy123 » Thu May 19, 2016 5:09 pm

Archiplex wrote:
jeremybender wrote:1) Aiming speed recovery after moving should be nerfed dramatically.
2) Horse archery should be nerfed even more.
3) Wielding shields should deflect arrows fired frontally at you, especially at higher MC.

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1. Nah, damage formulas need to be fixed, i would prefer arrows hitting more for weaker damage than "miss and die or shoot and kill" scenarios
2. Agreed
3. Deflect, no- but maybe shields should grant a flat damage reduction against all ranged attacks.


>implying that its "miss and die or shoot and kill" XD

its more like miss and nothing happens or shoot and kill
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Peonaz3 » Thu May 19, 2016 5:24 pm

Pan_w_okularach wrote:both aiming speed and damage should be nerfed
good players were able to get kills at 20 mm and what we have now is ridiculous
left click on your enemy's portait and pretend it takes any skill


If bows are so awesome and takes just click to kill, how comes not every single person uses bow in combat? Pretty sure quite alot of them reaching for swords too (including troll himself, based on his claim). Something doesn't add up, boy.

And gz on nice kills, Maslow. This, intriguing moot thread after looong break, and Trump's victory in Oregon is a nice sequence of events ^_^
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu May 19, 2016 5:31 pm

Peonaz3 wrote:
Pan_w_okularach wrote:both aiming speed and damage should be nerfed
good players were able to get kills at 20 mm and what we have now is ridiculous
left click on your enemy's portait and pretend it takes any skill


If bows are so awesome and takes just click to kill, how comes not every single person uses bow in combat? Pretty sure quite alot of them reaching for swords too (including troll himself, based on his claim). Something doesn't add up, boy.

And gz on nice kills, Maslow. This, intriguing moot thread after looong break, and Trump's victory in Oregon is a nice sequence of events ^_^

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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Onep » Thu May 19, 2016 5:37 pm

Peonaz3 wrote:
Pan_w_okularach wrote:both aiming speed and damage should be nerfed
good players were able to get kills at 20 mm and what we have now is ridiculous
left click on your enemy's portait and pretend it takes any skill


If bows are so awesome and takes just click to kill, how comes not every single person uses bow in combat? Pretty sure quite alot of them reaching for swords too (including troll himself, based on his claim). Something doesn't add up, boy.

And gz on nice kills, Maslow. This, intriguing moot thread after looong break, and Trump's victory in Oregon is a nice sequence of events ^_^


It's more out of habit than anything I feel. We always talked about rolling a majority of archers at the beginning of the world after we saw how well archers fared at the end of w8. But I think people gravitate towards melee because you can feel the affect of your stats much more than as an archer. As an archer it's basically just making a fancy bow and arrows then watching a bar fill up and letting rip.
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Onep » Thu May 19, 2016 5:38 pm

Also sparring as an archer is awkward as hell. So it's not as enjoyable there. Melee offers decks and a bit strategy as well.
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Archiplex » Thu May 19, 2016 5:45 pm

Ozzy123 wrote:
Archiplex wrote:
jeremybender wrote:1) Aiming speed recovery after moving should be nerfed dramatically.
2) Horse archery should be nerfed even more.
3) Wielding shields should deflect arrows fired frontally at you, especially at higher MC.

Jorbtar do hear us!


1. Nah, damage formulas need to be fixed, i would prefer arrows hitting more for weaker damage than "miss and die or shoot and kill" scenarios
2. Agreed
3. Deflect, no- but maybe shields should grant a flat damage reduction against all ranged attacks.


>implying that its "miss and die or shoot and kill" XD

its more like miss and nothing happens or shoot and kill


With horse combat, well yes.

If you actually got close enough to the archer, from there all they can do is run and hope to create enough distance, then spam defenses and hope you have enough UA/Agi to survive enough to get somewhere safe. Once you're close, they can only run away at the same speed you can chase them, so creating distance becomes a matter of getting people stuck on props and objects.
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby Pan_w_okularach » Thu May 19, 2016 5:46 pm

Peonaz3 wrote:
Pan_w_okularach wrote:both aiming speed and damage should be nerfed
good players were able to get kills at 20 mm and what we have now is ridiculous
left click on your enemy's portait and pretend it takes any skill


If bows are so awesome and takes just click to kill, how comes not every single person uses bow in combat? Pretty sure quite alot of them reaching for swords too (including troll himself, based on his claim). Something doesn't add up, boy.

And gz on nice kills, Maslow. This, intriguing moot thread after looong break, and Trump's victory in Oregon is a nice sequence of events ^_^

most people choose their strategies based on what everyone else does rather than rational thinking
now when it's clear that bows are more efficient than melee everyone will start using them
me personally, i thought it's too risky to invest into something that is soon to get nerfed but apparently i was wrong
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby stya » Thu May 19, 2016 5:55 pm

I love how this thread goes like: I was invincible, now I'm not, please fix.
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Re: 3 wizards down, should i be worried?

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu May 19, 2016 6:01 pm

stya wrote:I love how this thread goes like: I was invincible, now I'm not, please fix.

What?

It's "There's literally nothing you can do against the khergit khanate, pls fix."
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