The Political Scene

[Robben_DuMarsch]

Could you tell me how you got "bad blood" between yourselves? He seems an amiable enough person to me. Disagreement on leadership? Crimes?

No crimes at all, nothing that I think represents a stain on his representation.
Vaku "really" likes his architecture. Vaku is also not very good at playing nice when other people are in charge and don't follow exactly what he wants

I think he will do great as the leader of Vidarheim Abbey, and wish him the best. However, I could personally never allow Vaku into one of my villages again.

[Vaku]

New Brodgar was there for the the offensive siege on DIS (not "AD" as Vaku describes it.)

What are you quoting from my submission? Only time I mention AD is in this section, as related to the attached thread:

Willy Potter's wizards siege AD. As the siege progressed for several hours, inhabitants of AD gathered their valuables, and what they could not carry, they destroyed. At the conclusion of the siege, AD was razed.

As for these ridiculous jabs? Here's my response, lol.

I'm glad that he's sitting on the sideline

I would have been there in person if I still played and had a combat character.

As I am no longer active in the game itself

Forensics

I will say without question that there is definitely, permanent, and irreparable bad blood between myself and Vaku.

Could you tell me how you got "bad blood" between yourselves? He seems an amiable enough person to me. Disagreement on leadership? Crimes?

Final exchange I had with Robben.

"for whom you have no desire to know about"*** That typo bugs me. ;_;

You should be aware of the inaccuracies and his conflict of interest, however. This conflict, ultimately, is painfully obvious in his writing.

To avoid bias in notation of events, I link the thread that recount the events, next to the blurbs. From these attached threads, I describe a summary of the events of the posts I've parsed.
It's not my bias that you're reading about New Brodgar and its leadership, rather it is the popular opinion that you're reading should you parse the threads.

I am no longer active in the game

I welcome you to start playing again. It would be interesting where you could take Brodgar if you were active.

If you would like to see what active leadership looks like, with a mind toward how comfortable you are in the community, you may pass through Viðarrheim and see if you enjoy what the exiles from New Brodgar have created.

[Avu]

No clue what this is all about or care just thinking the whole Dis Ainran Polska and Koreans thing must be the best tower of Babel ever.

[Jacobian123]

Oh wow I hit a sore spot didn't I?

No clue what this is all about or care just thinking the whole Dis Ainran Polska and Koreans thing must be the best tower of Babel ever.

Haha yes.

[Robben_DuMarsch]

@ Vaku

Your specific inaccuracies:
1. That AD was sieged. It was a Korean village allied to DIS.
2. That New Brodgar was not breached.
3. That there was a sole siege on New Brodgar.
4. That such a siege went on without intervention.
5. That New Brodgar is not a part of any alliance.

I don't at all doubt you were simply relying on specific sources for some of these inaccuracies, as the Onep thread does refer to the Korean village as AD. Others are error on your part, or errors from posts I have not seen, but regardless are errors more likely from lack of personal knowledge rather than intentional mischaracterization.

Where your "bias" shines:
1. Repeated references to groups as "Exiles of New Brodgar" rather than who they actually are. Anyone who is formerly of New Brodgar is not an exile
2. Obviously intentional mischaracterizations of the events if the siege, of which you have no personal knowledge.

With regards to your actual exile from New Brodgar:
We both know that your three paragraphs pictured were not the extent of either that conversation, nor your petty toxicity. In my line of work, such an omission represented as an entire conversation would result in sanctions.

Oh wow I hit a sore spot didn't I?

That you did - Vaku is clearly sore about this to this day.

[algeralith]

Let me just correct a few things.

We did siege AD, see thread.
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48550

We did siege Koreans, see thread. (First day are the pictures)
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48765

We did stop the first siege on Brodgar. (See second day of previous thread)

And we did decimate Dis after they breached into Brodgar.
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48781

We did raid Whoreshore.
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48421

We did raid R'yleh
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48093

We did attempt to raid Polska, see thread.
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48639

Hopefully I'm not forgetting anything else.

[Robben_DuMarsch]

Third siege on New Brodgar, which you stopped by simply organizing, after which we destroyed the siegeworks

As to the AD Siege, my mistake. Both AD and Koreans were sieged, the latter of which we participated in, the former of which we did not.

[Zeler]

No clue what this is all about or care just thinking the whole Dis Ainran Polska and Koreans thing must be the best tower of Babel ever.

LOL, tottaly true.

[Vaku]

Sorry, I shy away from flaming. Forgive me if this is my last post on the matter.

Robben, you're welcome to turn around the image of New Brodgar.

Jade set the tone for how this population views New Brodgar with this thread: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=47138

And during the creation of those 17 pages, back and forth, about how disapproving people were of the decisions from the top down, I told the guys, "I'm not going to join in and poo-poo Robben, I'm just going to do better."

And you know, you say this, that we're "not exiles:"

1. Repeated references to groups as "Exiles of New Brodgar" rather than who they actually are. Anyone who is formerly of New Brodgar is not an exile

But just posts ago, you write this:

I could personally never allow Vaku into one of my villages again.

Vaku is a former New Brodgarian that was one of the few we ever had to kick from our ranks.

Come now, be forthcoming. Be true with what you say.
I am one of the few that you removed from New Brodgar—and the other few, which constituted half of New Brodgar this world, were all of us forcibly removed from all platforms of communication, and you know? We found our own way, and I'd say we're happier for it.

For all the minutia you describe as inaccurate? Whatever man. It wasn't any clearer before I got here—so lead the discussion, write about New Brodgar, be an active leader. Try to have a presence that isn't constituted and held up by solely bravado. You know, I'm not the only one who sees this. Jesterz writes this: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=48774&start=10#p638541

After you wrote to me that you didn't care about the "newbs," I didn't want to fight to come back. New Brodgar wasn't Yolan's Brodgar. It was something you created and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore. Peace, and enjoy the home you create.

[ssaaaax]

You guys must finally realize that coming to fight a faction that is attacking another city, therefore is vulnerable, is by no means an alliance. Odditown is not allied to NB. NB might be allied with Great Houses but not with us.

Argument that there's a former member of NB playing in Odditown doesn't mean anything. People change villages and alliances often.

Also, Robben, you seem to have no idea about Wizards past actions either, considering Vaku wasn't even wrong about raiding AD or whatever.

If we counted every single village we come to "rescue"
(find a fight) as allies, both sides (Dis and Wizards) would have 15 villages, not 3-5, in our alliances.

BTW, comparing last world's alliances to current ones is pointless. They change all the time. W8's NB actually mattered.