Samarqand Market Politics

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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby Ysh » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:19 pm

leanne69 wrote:So you do indeed believe it have no correlation. Congratulation, you found a loophole in the rule to play with.

Last world, only killer of trader weren't allowed. This world, enemy aren't neither.

You're enemy.

You're out.

Rule for chat = rule for market. If you're not allowed in one, you're not allowed in both. Not stated in the rule? It's obvious enough to not be. Feel free to keep arguing about it, but it's kinda obvious you're just trying hard here.

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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby infectedking » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:24 pm

leanne69 wrote:Btw, you weren't even kicked for being an enemy, since you were remaining peaceful, but for trashing the market thread with bullshit after we surrounded your realm.

We both know you're going to do a market, and your first step was to try to reduce our reputation. You really think we will let you do such thing without answering?

C'mon Kenpachi.

I got sent PM saying I was kicked because I was the enemy, I wasn't trash talking the market, I was clearing pointing out the issues with it and how it is run, telling the truth isn't trash talking. Also I wouldn't reduce the Goo's market for the sake of building reputation for my own, that's foul play and it's what Dis (Goo) is known for, Just like raiding/trying to take over every other market that even tried to start up last world. My market hasn't even started up yet since i've been busy taking care of a village with plenty of hard working villagers. So no, yet again... More Dis lies.
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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:26 pm

leanne69 wrote:So you do indeed believe it have no correlation. Congratulation, you found a loophole in the rule to play with.

Last world, only killer of trader weren't allowed. This world, enemy aren't neither.

You're enemy.

You're out.

Rule for chat = rule for market. If you're not allowed in one, you're not allowed in both. Not stated in the rule? It's obvious enough to not be. Feel free to keep arguing about it, but it's kinda obvious you're just trying hard here.

Isn't technically everyone who isn't a Dis ally "enemy"? By this rules, "Samarqand Market" is just Dis selling stuff to local noobs in the Dis realm. Kinda stupid tbh xD
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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby Ozzy123 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:28 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:Isn't technically everyone who isn't a Dis ally "enemy"? By this rules, "Samarqand Market" is just Dis selling stuff to local noobs in the Dis realm.


Like 99% of the traders last world weren't allied to DIS, they were just neutral people lol. Obviously, everyone who is allied to Hedgehugs kingdom is an enemy for DIS.
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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:30 pm

Ozzy123 wrote:last world

Last world, there was no rule "enemies can't make barter stands"
Ozzy123 wrote:Obviously, everyone who is allied to Hedgehugs kingdom is an enemy for DIS.

How is this obvious? Is there a written contract that says Hedgehugs is specifically an enemy of Dis? What if a new faction springs up and doesn't want to ally themselves to Dis? Are they enemies too?

It seems that the only people who aren't enemies nor allies are just players who have nothing to sell anyway, so the market is just Dis selling their stuff to the noobs.
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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby ISKRA » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:39 pm

+1 top quality thread,
we had fun with legit cairns <3

hope u ppl be rich with dat market
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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby infectedking » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:40 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
Ozzy123 wrote:last world

Last world, there was no rule "enemies can't make barter stands"

yeah but she sure kicked everyone related to AD out of that trade chat. :/
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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby tirioll » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:00 pm

The kingdom setting up a monetary system indeed gets a lot of economic power that it can easily abuse. And it is fair in a sense that they put certain effort to set up and maintain the market. But it's also the way our real world ended up working, and there are a lot of benefits of fiat currencies for all participants of the economy, not just the governments and central banks.

And to keep the parallel with the real world, a natural course of development is competition. We have several big factions, that are centered in different parts of the world. Each could make they own market and issue their own currency. And let the plebs choose what fits them better. If there is a local market where I can trade everything I want, I would not bother to travel half of the world, even if deals are slightly better there. Or if one region is known for murderers that KoS every white dot, I would choose a different place to carry my wares to.

Now these incentives mostly apply to a world without teleportation. Since we do have it, the whole system can be even more interesting. Every major currency will be exchangeable for every other currency, directly or via goods. There will be people who would be monitoring markets and make money by arbitrage (buy low, sell high), so prices will be very similar in all the markets.

And now we come to an interesting, although theoretical, point. A textbook argument against "printing money" is inflation. If LadyGoo and friends rely too much on minting coins to buy our pearls, pearls will be in high demand and their price will start going up. They will need to mint even more coins, and the spiral keeps going. Pearls - and all other goods - will have higher and higher prices. In a world with a single dominant currency, plebs have to just suck it up. But if there is at least one other alternative, it might be a different story. If prices in crowns are constantly rising, and prices in rings are stable, I will prefer rings to store my savings. After all, if I am a merchant or investor in Norway, and I want to save money or buy some peppers from Mexico, I will most likely use euros or dollars, and not Uzbekistani som (official currency of Samarkand).

Again, this is mostly theory, but I think that this game is doing a pretty good job replicating real world when it comes to cities and warfare. Maybe it could also make an interesting monetary economy.


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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby DDDsDD999 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:21 pm

I heard LadyGoo is unfaithful to her God-fearing, Presbyterian husband, trollex. I believe this is an attack on the sanctity of the very cores of our civilization, an attempt at furthering the degeneracy inherent to society. I can only imagine how her high-school valedictorian, one time eagle scout, West Point Grad and faithful husband, trollex, could feel about this.

If you can't trust LadyGoo to be faithful to her wedding vows, how can you trust her not to single-handedly lead a massive world-wide nab genocide fueled by their very own subtokens?

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Re: Samarqand Market Politics

Postby Onep » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:02 pm

This is absolutely DISgusting. Rampant botters allowed to spew their vomit forth onto the honest, god-fearing community. DISgraceful.
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