loftar wrote:Sure wouldn't be using something like Discord, at least. It seems to almost exemplify the cancer that is every standardized protocol ever being displaced by some proprietary walled-garden on the web.
jorb wrote:The running server is the test server.
neeco wrote:Would you care to elaborate? I'm genuinely curious. I get a lot of utility out of discord. What standardized protocol would you say it's displacing?
loftar wrote:Well, I don't know exactly what Discord does. People seem to be using it as some sort of VoIP application, which I've never been big on myself to begin with, but it's clearly something that has existed since at least two decades prior to Discord.
loftar wrote:Well, I don't know exactly what Discord does. People seem to be using it as some sort of VoIP application, which I've never been big on myself to begin with, but it's clearly something that has existed since at least two decades prior to Discord. Protocols I know of include H.323 and SIP (and pretty sure there are standardized VoIP extensions for XMPP as well), but again, I haven't done much of that myself. As for text chat, there's nothing wrong with IRC or XMPP.
jorb wrote:The running server is the test server.
neeco wrote:While I similarly don't know much about the protocols, etc, that you mentioned, I would say that discord is a combination of both voice and text channels. The utility I gain from it over other implementations of voice/text is the mostly user management. It has quite extensive means of permissions and access restriction combined with the ability to host text data, links, etc, and notify specific groups of people. This is very well suited for larger villages in haven, and scales up or down quite well.
loftar wrote:The fact that the Discord guys didn't do that just tells me that they are more interested in locking people into their platform than they are in providing the best VoIP service.
loftar wrote:neeco wrote:While I similarly don't know much about the protocols, etc, that you mentioned, I would say that discord is a combination of both voice and text channels. The utility I gain from it over other implementations of voice/text is the mostly user management. It has quite extensive means of permissions and access restriction combined with the ability to host text data, links, etc, and notify specific groups of people. This is very well suited for larger villages in haven, and scales up or down quite well.
Like I said, I haven't done much VoIP, so I can't say anything in detail, but I can't imagine any of the big open protocols can't support features like that.
Rather, is not the reason you use discord simply that it's "easy to use", by just requiring a web browser, and not any installed software or anything like that? If so, then it seems to me that it shouldn't be too difficult for anyone motivated enough to set up, say, an open SIP server and (arguably separately) a web-based client that could do exactly the same thing, except that those of us who prefer our software to not be huge, bloated JavaScript abominations could also use any other client to connect, or even use the same web-based client to connect to any third-party server, or even have multi-server, federated channels. The fact that the Discord guys didn't do that just tells me that they are more interested in locking people into their platform than they are in providing the best VoIP service.
maze wrote:you can also setup discord to have authentication with forums.
jorb wrote:The running server is the test server.
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