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Re: Registered Users

Postby loftar » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:13 pm

warrri wrote:Yea, 10 of my alt accounts havent :O

Hehe, yeah. :)

I have started thinking lately about allowing several simultaneous logins on the same account. I don't really remember why I introduced that restriction in the first place; I think it had some technical reason, but well... it's over two years ago. Character data at that point didn't really contain anything apart from an inventory, into which you could pick up the logs from the trees you had cut. They took 2x2 slots. :)
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Re: Registered Users

Postby sabinati » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:24 pm

well that might be nice, would allow alts on the same account to be useful.
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Re: Registered Users

Postby Chakravanti » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:32 pm

It woudl be really nice. Perhaps if you do this you can create a way to migrate characters to other accounts so we can merge all our relevant alts into a single account. Then submit our alt accounts up for deletion?

Furthermore, while were on the topic of account migrating characters, it might not be so unreasonable to 'loan' characters to trusted friend's account. It would have to include functionlity of ultimate control to the original holder though and might be more complicated than it's worth investing into....at least for now anyway.
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Re: Registered Users

Postby Lothaudus » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:06 pm

Oooohh... Yes please.
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Re: Registered Users

Postby loftar » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:07 pm

Chakravanti wrote:It woudl be really nice. Perhaps if you do this you can create a way to migrate characters to other accounts so we can merge all our relevant alts into a single account. Then submit our alt accounts up for deletion?

Currently, that would be utterly impossible. :)

Chakravanti wrote:Furthermore, while were on the topic of account migrating characters, it might not be so unreasonable to 'loan' characters to trusted friend's account. It would have to include functionlity of ultimate control to the original holder though and might be more complicated than it's worth investing into....at least for now anyway.

That would actually be a lot easier, as long as the real ownership cannot actually be transferred.
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Re: Registered Users

Postby Chakravanti » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:21 pm

WHy would migrating all alts to a main account be impossible? I'm sure there's a wya to work it. I can see that it might be more effort than it's worth though considering it's something that only need to be done once. However Wouldn't it massively reduce the size of your Database? Isn't that the reason for your previous system upgrade?

Another thought occured to me. And that is multiboxing off a single client. Having the ability to log in multiple charecters from a single account and switch between them on the same client. Would this be so difficult? UI might not be so ideal if it's a laggy transition but I would use this feature because most of what I do with double logged alts is just background fishing or teleport exploitation anyway.
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Re: Registered Users

Postby theTrav » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:51 pm

Chakravanti wrote:WHy would migrating all alts to a main account be impossible?


It's software, so nothing is 'impossible' what Loftar more likely means is that it's contrary to the metaphor he's programming with. That or it'd be really hard because he's got lots of points that tie features of the character to the account as opposed to the character so it'd just be a lot of effort to change them all.
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Re: Registered Users

Postby a123 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:54 pm

We seem to be receiving a lot of traffic right now from various Russian sites (particularly an imageboard about Dwarf Fortress*)


Now it is mostly an imageboard about Haven & Heart. :D
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Re: Registered Users

Postby loftar » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:07 am

theTrav wrote:That or it'd be really hard because he's got lots of points that tie features of the character to the account as opposed to the character so it'd just be a lot of effort to change them all.

Indeed. I'm using the (account name, character name) tuple as a universal character ID, so if I change that, I'd also have to migrate all saved data, which would obviously require special-purpose tools just for that. "More effort than it's worth" is putting it lightly. As for reducing the size of the account database, that is a small problem indeed. The account/character data isn't even 500 MBs anyway. The vast majority of space is actually taken up by minimap images. :)

As for switching between multiple characters in the same client, I'd have to say that it depends on how it should work. I'm definitely planning to add a "return to character selection" button anyway, so it's certainly possible in that way. It would also be possible to prevent the character from physically logging out, as happens with characters in combat. However, switching to another character and expecting the previous one to carry on with some action he was doing would be very difficult right now. Most, if not all, actions require an active UI session on the character.
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Re: Registered Users

Postby sabinati » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:26 am

you know, i dont think you guys are using optimal images settings for the minimap data
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