Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby jorb » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:37 pm

Chakravanti wrote:
jorb wrote:....Example: James has 14 perception...


BAW!! You gave yourself away early and we ALL missed it!!!!!


James has 67 perception, though. ;)
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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby Loopoo » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:37 pm

Jorb, please draw the boats and get em in the game ASAP :C

I'm really waiting on them :C
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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby Devour » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:55 pm

I have to say that I don't like the whole "seeing quality" thing. It's just really annoying. It'd be better if it was based on your level in the related skill, instead of generic perception.
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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby Froggeryz » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:12 pm

how long is this "ql32+" going to be in for, not playing until it has been fixed
I can barely do anything because I don't know what ql shit is, what if I accidently use the high ql stuff I'm saving?
and no, I'm not going to spend two weeks eating raw carrots just so I can see what ql shit is
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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby Chakravanti » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:51 pm

Loopoo wrote:Jorb, please draw the boats and get em in the game ASAP :C

I'm really waiting on them :C



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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby VoodooDog » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:53 pm

that means you to low to see what is really hq. so your level only is q32. trade with that or learn to understand the fine difference between madet stuff.
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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby Voideka » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:21 pm

Devour wrote:I have to say that I don't like the whole "seeing quality" thing. It's just really annoying. It'd be better if it was based on your level in the related skill, instead of generic perception.
Exactly. Generic perception doesn't even make sense if you leave out the appropriate skill; like Masamune wouldn't know a good sword if he started to lose his sight.

A better idea, in my opinion, would either be to combine the skill and perception in some way (with the result no lower than the skill to make it), or to check which is higher, skill or per, and use that. Personally I think the former is the best, as it is most realistic. A good smith will know what it takes to make a certain quality of goods, as he employs those techniques in his work. A good and highly perceptive smith will be able to see what makes an item better than his own best, and this is in part how he learns, by incorporating those things into his future work.
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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby Delamore » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:48 pm

Voideka wrote:
Devour wrote:I have to say that I don't like the whole "seeing quality" thing. It's just really annoying. It'd be better if it was based on your level in the related skill, instead of generic perception.
Exactly. Generic perception doesn't even make sense if you leave out the appropriate skill; like Masamune wouldn't know a good sword if he started to lose his sight.

A better idea, in my opinion, would either be to combine the skill and perception in some way (with the result no lower than the skill to make it), or to check which is higher, skill or per, and use that. Personally I think the former is the best, as it is most realistic. A good smith will know what it takes to make a certain quality of goods, as he employs those techniques in his work. A good and highly perceptive smith will be able to see what makes an item better than his own best, and this is in part how he learns, by incorporating those things into his future work.

For enjoyment and balance, I don't see any need of a limit on what QL you can see. It just seems because it has been added everyone is trying to find a better way to do it when it is an unneeded system in its self.
Also what is the point in trade if I have to have high amounts of the skill required to make it to even see if it's good?
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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby Chakravanti » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:07 pm

The point is well reputed merchs.
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Re: Game Development: Bling & Beer Brawl

Postby Drakxii » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:33 am

jorb wrote:
Chakravanti wrote:
jorb wrote:....Example: James has 14 perception...


BAW!! You gave yourself away early and we ALL missed it!!!!!


James has 67 perception, though. ;)


You clearly didn't have more then 20 int so your were not doing it the newbie way.
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