Game Development: World 5

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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Valnar » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:26 am

Ionico wrote:and Libel is pathetic. I'm not some pro-american, I've spent more of my life out of the usa than in it. "USA, USA?" no. I don't think so.


You are trying to hard at trolling.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby RangerRyan » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:27 am

I personally on forums and real life (Oh, you don't know what that is? It's what most of us people had before we found H&H joking) have met people with 0% humor capacity. I believe that the person 2(3 if someone made a post before this one) posts above is some of the 10% of the no-humor humanoids. Also, sorry if de-railed/went a bit over board with thread. I'm still feeling around for the proper behavior/whatever on this forum :?

Note: Just go to the guy ranting about communism. I don't feel like having to count posts.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby erozaxx » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:29 am

Kaios wrote:
Grable wrote:I've been thinking: there won't be a way for a newer character to catch an older active character in terms of LP/Skills, even if the newer player is far more active.


This was also true before? What's the difference.


Unless newcomer accept he came late and will not try to jerk around by himself and joins some of the established players. He will get direct access to tonnes of curiosities he would never be able to get himself at this stage.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Anna1982 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:29 am

any one who thinks they can take us on our hs is bubbles
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Jackard » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:30 am

Ionico wrote:I'm sure the dev's have gotten a ton of flak, so what's a little more? Well this isn't "flak" per se, more of an observation...
before I start. No I don't spend 8 hours of my day reading previous posts, so I therefor may possibly be covering something that has already been covered. then this post can serve to show that more than (#) of people feel the same way.

The specific treatment of your players is somewhat off-cast and disrespectful. I'm no Math-magician or Statistic-eer, but it seems like you lost a bunch of players from the usa. I know for a fact my entire Minecraft(yes another game) clan had been hooked on this game for a while during world 4. We were late comers but we were having a blast. The issues you describe as "bad" weren't really a concern for most people. Since the communism declaration and outright disregard for people's negative feedback, every single one of my friends left. I saw generally about 250-ish Americans on at any random time. our group alone took 20 of those away. I know this is a small game and small community, but this game has the potential to make you very rich, sir. What I've seen in my years of indie game following is good games die horrible deaths when their developers act like "big shots" in their own game. it's not that simple fact alone, mind you, it's the fact that you narrow your own vision and forget to remove yourself from the scene and see the game from "god's view." seeing the posts you've left so far I'm incredibly certain this isn't going to change your mind, this isn't going to make you happy, or is this going to make some of your good friends happy.

Keep some things in mind if you plan to make money.
Americans always have cash, we pay for games 500x more often than the rest of the world will, when we don't have to.
Most Americans have stigmatized views communism. No I don't personally, I think this game is a great environment for it, Just don't say so and post big pics of Lenin and scare off all your rich, addicted american future customers.
Americans rule the worlds blogs, we're everywhere and we tweet, facebook, blab, chat in other games and at school about everything. we have big mouths, and a sure-fire way to kill a game is to kill your richest community.
Now I'm not saying the rest of the world won't make you rich, sure they will, But look at Notch (Markus Persson - Minecraft). he's Swedish. but he was smart. He never bad-mouthed his community, he never belittled people or tainted his game with political ideologies. And now he's banking millions-a-month. Nearly all of his latest customers are American. Nearly all his non-payed customers are not.

If you want to make this game modeled after a communistic society. then do so.... just DO NOT SAY SO. let people interpret it for what it is. Let americans think it's "tribal, or small village" let others think it's communism. don't LABEL it. you can flame me all you want, I expect I have TONS of things that can be contradicted... who doesn't really? ever? so go ahead. But if you feel the same, let this developer know, so he can make changes for his own benefit as well as ours. I love this game, I think it's great, and I'd like to see it get bigger, and I'm even willing to pay for it.... but not if all my friends are scared off and I'm left alone because you personally insulted them with your personal posts.

behold, american hubris
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Valnar » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:31 am

Jackard wrote:
Ionico wrote:blah blah blah go us of a blah

behold, american hubris


But it isn't hubris when we are right of course!
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Ionico » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:32 am

W/E honestly. I've obviously caused a stir. good or bad. touched a nerve, that's good. I hope you start thinking and stop acting. Maybe you missed the part where I said I love this game? it was true. I still do, here I am, trying to express that I miss my friends because you scared them away. trolling? sure "defined as trolling" I am, but do I feel like I am, no. does that matter, no. is it worth mentioning--to me? yes.

Oh and

behold, international overreaction, capitalism is sooooo scary omg. we eat babies.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Grable » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:33 am

ShadeMalice wrote:
Grable wrote:Well I'm not sure, has this been confirmed? Is it really the short ones that gain best LP/min?


Cat Gold: 2 Mental Weight, 36 hour study time, 350 base LP
Ant Soldiers: 2 Mental Weight, 40 minute study time, 200 base LP


This means, in the time it takes to get the HORRIBLE 350 LP from Cat Gold, you can get 10800 Base LP from Ant Soldiers, assuming uninterrupted studying. To be honest, this was so shocking to me I declared never to study Cat Gold again, it was so ridiculous.

At 360% LP Gain over 36 hours:
Cat Gold - 1260 LP
Ant Soldiers - 38880 LP

Actually, doing the math here, i'm -kinda- getting excited, considering you wouldn't be studying only one curiosity at a time. And that I have 20 Int.... Please come baaaack server! I wanna continue raiding anthills :(


Have you tried empress? It's quite fast and gives mad LP.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Jackard » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:33 am

Ionico wrote:W/E honestly. I've obviously caused a stir. good or bad. touched a nerve, that's good.

again, you overestimate your importance. our reactions are that of indifference or amusement, not indignation
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Valnar » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:34 am

Ionico wrote:W/E honestly. I've obviously caused a stir. good or bad. touched a nerve, that's good. I hope you start thinking and stop acting. Maybe you missed the part where I said I love this game? it was true. I still do, here I am, trying to express that I miss my friends because you scared them away. trolling? sure "defined as trolling" I am, but do I feel like I am, no. does that matter, no. is it worth mentioning--to me? yes.

Oh and

behold, international overreaction, capitalism is sooooo scary omg. we eat babies.


You should be a comedian, because you are funny.
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