Game Development: World 5

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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby thezood » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:22 pm

Butko wrote:That what is happening about every 5 min on server so everyone lags.
And as I remember devs wrote somewhere that one part of server is written in C or C++.


Bugs, issues, instabilities. Every project has this problems. HH - just small noncommercial project. This guys supports it without large codewriting and server administration community - as you see our community just flood at forum. So long server crash at 06.42 utc - it is not a java trouble, its just time for sleep and breakfast.

Fantastication wrote:One part being 'all of it'.

If its a true - so, it is very sad. C++ development has mach more troubles and need more coding resources.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Rhiannon » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:33 pm

omenran wrote:Maybe you should take some of that "open-mindedness" you have so much of and give this new system a chance? I'll channel Regan and call upon that Silent Majority. :P


The fact that you would "channel Regan" just mooted anything you could say about anything, matter of fact it mooted your reason for sticking around and using up good oxygen on the green ball of goofs called Earth. But I digress. I think what you and alot of people who moan about "give it a shot" are missing is this. Most of us welcome "Something new to do". I don't mind the curio system, it's neat, new stuff to do. I Don't even mind it being the MAJOR way to get LP. What most of us are disgusted by is that it is the ONLY way to get lp and sets long term goals to the OFF position. To even contemplate my Avatar doing hard ass work like making a brick wall, cooking pies and recipes, making silk cloth..yada yada..without ever getting 1 single reward of those actions giving ANY growth to my avatar is a game breaking STUPID ass, dog wont hunt, moronic move. There are lots of multi-task end chain actions that not only could be easily, but should be rewarded.

YES YES I've heard the bullshit brownnosers talk of all those wonderful "exciting curios to find that pop up from doing daily tasks that will provide you with the same incentive you had before and reward your avatar with growth". Well hummmm...let's see...so far....I've built 4 cabins, 3 boats, filled each cabin with cubbards (Approx 20 leaving room for beds), 2 carts, and all kinds of other wood/block and board usage and Ive not seen 1 single "daily task" curio from ANYTHING. No "Dust devil worm strange root made up name bullshit curio" from anything I've done EXCEPT 2 (turns out to be worthless) cat gold that takes 2-3 days to tick and gives 3-400 lp LMAO OMFNG...so if these "daily task curios" even do exist the drop rate is so fucking low you'd end up?..YES?...Cutting down trees and making boards to rot beause you dont need them just to try to find a fucking dust curio thing = same lame ass thing as bucketing ya fing retards..lol AND YES I built the 4th cabin specifically to make boards to try to find something and cause I was bored of GRINGING on walk speed looking for dandys and ladybugs. NOTHING HAS CHANGED except the grind is worse, less rewarding...more restricting and boring as fuck. BUt as the "Regan Channeler" says...I have been "giving it a chance"..as a lot of people have and these are unfortuntely the experiences we are getting.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby kLauE » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:37 pm

Rhiannon wrote:
omenran wrote:Maybe you should take some of that "open-mindedness" you have so much of and give this new system a chance? I'll channel Regan and call upon that Silent Majority. :P


To even contemplate my Avatar doing hard ass work like making a brick wall, cooking pies and recipes, making silk cloth..yada yada..without ever getting 1 single reawrd of those actions giving ANY growth to my avatar is a game breaking STUPID ass, dog wont hunt, moronic move.

Safety, FEP-food and silkbonus isn't a reward? :roll:
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby hungrycookpot » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:38 pm

So I'm pretty sure that the only reason the client is written in Java is because it's so easy to distribute across different platforms, and they didn't want to have to write 20 different clients.... Has nothing to do with performance...

And you're a joke if you thought for a second that the server software was written in Java...?
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Rhiannon » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:47 pm

kLauE wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
omenran wrote:Maybe you should take some of that "open-mindedness" you have so much of and give this new system a chance? I'll channel Regan and call upon that Silent Majority. :P


To even contemplate my Avatar doing hard ass work like making a brick wall, cooking pies and recipes, making silk cloth..yada yada..without ever getting 1 single reawrd of those actions giving ANY growth to my avatar is a game breaking STUPID ass, dog wont hunt, moronic move.

Safety, FEP-food and silkbonus isn't a reward? :roll:


That's repulsive and rediculous. You guys are so lame with this "soft touch" mealy mouth bullshite. "Isn't the food fep reward enough" bats eyes and curtsey. Pffft. For that much time effort and work?..no it's not. NOT to mention that such long multi-tasks actions are not worth doing once you have GOTTEN those bonuses. WHat's the incentive after you ALREADY HAVE YOUR AGILITY WHERE YOU WANT IT? ONce I Make the honey buns or ROBs and have my agi where I want it, my incentive to make more is? Once I have my merchant robe, raqnger cape yada yada...my incentive to make more is?...to give you? To trade you for something ELSE I don't need? Please. Communist dream my ass. All I'm sayingis that for some muti-task heavy investment actions there should be CHARACTER GROWTH for doing it. Especially if a player does NOT want to be a "Slave to Sodom" to bake your pies for you dude. Which is REALLLY not my game goal in life sweetie. NOR the reason the majority of people played this game.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby thezood » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:02 pm

Build a xxx houses - why are you doing this? Just built a boat, find a hq clay - in every case you need clay later, isnt it? If you find acre clay, you can built a chariot - about 4000 lp for a day. When you float with boat searching a water - you can find birch. so build a birch boats, for hour their give you lp like ant empress, maybe more. In your journey your always need a stop - for fishing or hunting, get new root for fishpole, etc. Why you cant at this moment put new cone curios at your study slot?

hungrycookpot wrote:And you're a joke if you thought for a second that the server software was written in Java...?


Cutie, i develop java server applications over 5 years. Today i manage about 5-7 servers with java application servers, and now finish setup two next - near hh-world at hetzner.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Haba » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:10 pm

Rhiannon wrote:That's repulsive and rediculous. You guys are so lame with this "soft touch" mealy mouth bullshite. "Isn't the food fep reward enough" bats eyes and curtsey. Pffft. For that much time effort and work?..no it's not. NOT to mention that such long multi-tasks actions are not worth doing once you have GOTTEN those bonuses. WHat's the incentive after you ALREADY HAVE YOUR AGILITY WHERE YOU WANT IT? ONce I Make the honey buns or ROBs and have my agi where I want it, my incentive to make more is? Once I have my merchant robe, raqnger cape yada yada...my incentive to make more is?...to give you? To trade you for something ELSE I don't need? Please. Communist dream my ass. All I'm sayingis that for some muti-task heavy investment actions there should be CHARACTER GROWTH for doing it. Especially if a player does NOT want to be a "Slave to Sodom" to bake your pies for you dude. Which is REALLLY not my game goal in life sweetie. NOR the reason the majority of people played this game.


Your incentive to make more RoBs is to survive against the guy who has more PER. Or the guy who comes at you with a sword. Or to be able to teleport further away in the ever expanding world.

That is not character growth for you? Then play less. Or even better - don't play at all.

Here is an alternative game for ya: http://progressquest.com/
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby jorb » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:30 pm

This thread continues to deliver. We should do this more often! :)
"The psychological trials of dwellers in the last times will be equal to the physical trials of the martyrs. In order to face these trials we must be living in a different world."

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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby SacreDoom » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:33 pm

jorb wrote:This thread continues to deliver. We should do this more often! :)


You mean reset more often?
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Rhiannon » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:44 pm

Haba wrote:Your incentive to make more RoBs is to survive against the guy who has more PER. Or the guy who comes at you with a sword. Or to be able to teleport further away in the ever expanding world.

That is not character growth for you? Then play less. Or even better - don't play at all.

Here is an alternative game for ya: http://progressquest.com/


BUllshit, and I don't need you to show me some alternative game, I need sad ass bully jerks like you to quit trying to push for the fucking up of this one so you can find more ways to "PRETEND" TO BE IN CONTROL OF ALL THE PLAYERS at your "imaginary top of the hill". Which is the only reason your group pushed and fought to get this stuff inacted as it has been. POORLY, BUT not for a very small group at the top. They will see benefits beyond imagining as far as their gameplay goes. I never "needed" robs for that before, I certianly wont need them for it now. Remember, not everyone (matter of fact the MAJORITY) played this game for it's griefer bully aspects.

The fact remains, their is nothing to do in the game now except "take breaks from grinding curios and curio mats" to build you a cabin or do something infrastructure wise. Then it's back to hunting curio mats or grinding curios. That is the game now, because doing all the reghular work, from farming to infrasructure gets you nothing. Well ok, they claim it will every once in a while but I, nor anyone I know, has seen any of those supposed regular work curio drops. ANd if CAT GOLD is any idndication of what those normal work curios are like...LOL..well, I throw them away now when I find cat gold, because 2 days @ 400 lp was a joke.
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