Game Development: World 5

[Guattanator]

Never. This threead is intolerable and I want to keep the garbage in one place.

Guat, the point of this thread now is as a dumping grounds for everything no one wants to see anywhere else. Do not expect high quality posts here or any real discussion. Thank you for the sentiments though and best of luck to you =)

That's what I figgured, and that's why I didn't suggest locking it, since if it was gone we'd have about 30 new threads of crap popping up. I also find it a mild form of entertainment, the constant bitching is funny, even though it may be somewhat abrasive at times.

[Serpensio]

I'm not even full nature yet but I got over 1k lp from a ladybug. To find one though you need to get out of your cabin and look around. There are plenty of things to do with your time. You need only exploration 2 to see blueberries, I got a itsy bitsy spider from one when I was out foraging, don't know yet how much lp I will gain but I bet it will be a lot. And to get your exp up to 2 you only need 300 lp, that is easy to get.

I am not saying I am fully happy with the new system but it is possible to do something else with your time than deforestation and sitting around doing nothing. Whining about the system without actually trying it out is not the answer, like I said before the system won't be changed because you keep bitching about it.

I've yet to find such curiosities, simply because they are rare, and I spawned in a forest.
I have little interest is running around everywhere picking everything I don't need it, searching for a curiosity, hoping the random number generator will favor me today. It's just like raiding a dungeon for the umptienth time hoping to get that Epic Rare Uber Item. If I was interested in doing that sort of thing, I'd play wow, or one of the million F2P clones out there. Instead I'm playing H&H, because, at least in world 4, I enjoyed it.

I gave the new system a try, I played for several hours, however, after the initial LP gain from picking anything and everything I saw near me and building/crafting every little thing I could, I was still lacking very much in LP to get skills I needed, or up stats I wanted. Eventually I ended up wandering aimlessly, and going akf numerous times. There's nothing I can gather that I need, except food, the only 2 rabbit skins I butchered were stolen while I was away from my camp and I haven't found another rabbit yet. I can't build a boat to go exploring the waterways, I have no intention of living in the spot I spawned on so I'm not going to build a house yet or start stockpiling resources (which will only force me to need to carry them to the place I determine I want to live). What is there for me to do then?

I'm not whining about the system, I'm stating my experience, and reasons for disliking the system. I know little comes from bitching. That is why I'm actually doing something about it: Protesting via deforestation. This accomplishes 3 things, 1, gives me something to do while I wait for my curiosities to burn down, 2, gives me a direction and makes wandering aimlessly more interesting, 3, might even have an impact on development if enough join in on the protest.

[thedownwardcult]

stuff

You aren't arguing against this system, though. You are arguing that the game can be botted and that there are potential advantages to doing so, something that I don't think anyone has ever denied. You are not refuting the central point I am trying to make, namely that botting an important aspect of the game is significantly less meaningful under the new system.

Botting is dead, but so is the fun...sorry. I never was even involved in these "captalist societies" or any of the political stuff, but due to it, now I just load curiosities. My house is built, etc., but whats really the point in expanding right now? I don't have the skills or the stats to do so, partially because it's slow, partially because the system is so pointless I just don't care about my character anymore. The fun of the game was watching the character gradually grow in items, property and attributes. Now it's...waiting to get the lp...to do that...so that I can wait for more lp??? Maybe it's just me, and I can respect some people may love the new system and find it fun. But for me, it's just made everything dull and slow and just plain unfun. And apparently a lot of players feel this way judging by the forums.

So yea maybe factions can't bot as well, but now most of us players who didn't do so are now stuck with a terribly boring system. I don't even play anymore, just lurking to see if anything is coming out of this and hoping there is a change in some way cause I loved the game.

[Kearn]

stuff

You aren't arguing against this system, though. You are arguing that the game can be botted and that there are potential advantages to doing so, something that I don't think anyone has ever denied. You are not refuting the central point I am trying to make, namely that botting an important aspect of the game is significantly less meaningful under the new system.

Botting is dead, but so is the fun...sorry. I never was even involved in these "captalist societies" or any of the political stuff, but due to it, now I just load curiosities. My house is built, etc., but whats really the point in expanding right now? I don't have the skills or the stats to do so, partially because it's slow, partially because the system is so pointless I just don't care about my character anymore. The fun of the game was watching the character gradually grow in items, property and attributes. Now it's...waiting to get the lp...to do that...so that I can wait for more lp??? Maybe it's just me, and I can respect some people may love the new system and find it fun. But for me, it's just made everything dull and slow and just plain unfun. And apparently a lot of players feel this way judging by the forums.

So yea maybe factions can't bot as well, but now most of us players who didn't do so are now stuck with a terribly boring system. I don't even play anymore, just lurking to see if anything is coming out of this and hoping there is a change in some way cause I loved the game.

bye

[FireSplitter]

Good! Less lag. Bye!

[Serpensio]

This topic has now become nothing but a flame war between people who like/love/worship the new system, and people who dislike/hate/demonize the new system. It doesn't seem to be getting anyone anywhere. There are a few good points, on both sides, but as a whole this thread has turned to "you fat," "you retarded," "you suck milk from jorb's brest," "you only saying that because you kiss J&L's asses" and "your veiwpoints/opinions are invalid, I'm right you're wrong so bugger off dill-hole" etc. I know this post will probably either feed the trolls or be ignored/not cared about but this is a forum so I'll voice my opinion. Can we please be semi-civil about our arguments? Almost any good point someone brings up in these posts is generally started or ended with a derogatory statment about the people who disagree as is each response and thus less likely to be taken to heart by the people being argued with and just starts a new cycle of the "you suck for your opinion" war. So I am making a humble request to please try to be civil when pointing something out.
If you feel the need to be sarcastic with me, so be it.

I have to agree. It saddens me that so many here are so disrespectful to others, and are unwilling to accept differences in opinion.

I understand some like the new system, and personally dislike it immensely. It would be nice if we could engage in discussion for a compromise. Until then, I'll be feeding my boredom through deforestation.

[vaidelizs]

This topic has now become nothing but a flame war between people who like/love/worship the new system, and people who dislike/hate/demonize the new system. It doesn't seem to be getting anyone anywhere. There are a few good points, on both sides, but as a whole this thread has turned to "you fat," "you retarded," "you suck milk from jorb's brest," "you only saying that because you kiss J&L's asses" and "your veiwpoints/opinions are invalid, I'm right you're wrong so bugger off dill-hole" etc. I know this post will probably either feed the trolls or be ignored/not cared about but this is a forum so I'll voice my opinion. Can we please be semi-civil about our arguments? Almost any good point someone brings up in these posts is generally started or ended with a derogatory statment about the people who disagree as is each response and thus less likely to be taken to heart by the people being argued with and just starts a new cycle of the "you suck for your opinion" war. So I am making a humble request to please try to be civil when pointing something out.
If you feel the need to be sarcastic with me, so be it.

I have to agree. It saddens me that so many here are so disrespectful to others, and are unwilling to accept differences in opinion.

I understand some like the new system, and personally dislike it immensely. It would be nice if we could engage in discussion for a compromise. Until then, I'll be feeding my boredom through deforestation.

And im agree,also now much more bugs.

[Xoatl]

Theres plenty of things to do once you can steal/make a boat and put up a claim so you dont have to worry about thieves. Also ant empresses are valuable, so cruise around on a boat until you see an ant hill. Raid the hill and get on your boat and sail abit away, the ants will stand around the shore then give the fuck up. Now you can safely raid the ant hill and the ants won't do shit. Bunny slippers are helpful in this process. Those ants eat clogs like a motherfucker. Besides that theres foraging, stealing, getting clay etc etc. Don't despair, get a boat.

[Whitney7]

The fun of the game was watching the character gradually grow in items, property and attributes.

That hasn't changed for me.

[Serpensio]

This eliminates murder griefers but brings out people that go around chopping wood just to grief settlements to get people to QQ for change on the forums -.-... Anything we can implement against it besides just shooting them? Some of us can't get rage on the first day.

I'm not doing it to grief settlements, I'll be doing it evenly across the board and won't discriminate for or against settlements I encounter along my way. That said, it's highly unlikely I'll get very far without support, so if you're affected, nothing stops you from moving to another area.

It's not like players didn't grief others by chopping all the trees by them in world 4 before, just that it was more "pointed" grief, and usually in retaliation of a crime or during a settlement wipe of criminals/political enemies/people you didn't like.