Server issues: New server

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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby mustachio » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:21 am

ugh...............
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby ninja_yodeler » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:23 am

they will not wipe even if every single player asks them to.

somewhere they said they only wipe when they have major updates that require a new world. they will not have any of these until salem is done with so we have many more months of W5 ahead of us. deal with it.
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby 183492761 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:23 am

HarryDresden wrote:
183492761 wrote:i heard a lot of people who want wipe, so why don't we ask it from game's developers?


They're quite busy atm, so it's useless to tell them we want a wipe.


i don't see that developers do small game update or fix or something last time, so what are they so busy for?
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby 183492761 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:25 am

ninja_yodeler wrote:they will not wipe even if every single player asks them to.

somewhere they said they only wipe when they have major updates that require a new world. they will not have any of these until salem is done with so we have many more months of W5 ahead of us. deal with it.


ninja_yodeler wrote:deal with it.


okay, bro. thanks for explanation.
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby borka » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:27 am

Jorb:

-snip- A world reset will not happen until we have some meaningful development that requires one, which will probably be a while. -snip-
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby Vek17 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:39 am

WOw. . . I've been AFKing on a crashed server for a really long time lol
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby Butko » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:56 am

OdinLives wrote:
183492761 wrote:i heard a lot of people who want wipe, so why don't we ask it from game's developers?


Wipe in my opinion is the worst thing to do, because it fixes the problem only temporary.

Find and fixx the bug(can be hard i know it) or use an older, stable version of the software part that causes the crash.

that is true, but I just have a feeling that devs don't have time anymore for HnH development and they are focused on salem OR they don't have a clue what to do with that bug.
In any case, I would suggest opening source of HnH or accepting more devs into development team to help development and bug fixes. It's shame that HnH will die that way and in my opinion salem would not even be good enough as HnH is. 3D destroyed many old good games: examples: age of empires, settlers,... And I doubt here will be different. It's like a charm to have isometric 2D graphics and even better to have beautiful one!
I hope devs won't waste away that game or they will come to sense to open source code of HnH and allow community to continue development of HnH.
I'm also for that we get more realms not only one server. That would spread out people and maps will be big enough for everyone. Maps are too small now, you can't find peaceful place you can't find good clay or water spot that is not taken... Now you have only 2options: join village that have all that resources or play as hermit and die as soon one nolifer with 1000UA and 700 STR comes by and just smash your palisade down.
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby Ghost1996 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:00 am

183492761 wrote:
Ghost1996 wrote:
Evarine wrote:Does any one know how long the server is usually down for after a crash?

as i told 3-6 Hours sometimes up to 8-9 hours
183492761 wrote:every morning - crash. i think the server need a cup of wipe :3

well every morning crash is at about 5-7 am now 9 am so its unusual crash


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maybie you should visit and read crash time more often at homepage huh? usual crashes at 5 UTC/GMT.Whenever i wake up at 9AM by my time UCT/GMT +3 (Standart +2) server appears to be crashed so i need to wait.And dont call me schoolboy iam not your friend or son.And stop using alt accounts and if its your main account well than your nickname sux
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby Procne » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:06 am

Butko wrote:
OdinLives wrote:
183492761 wrote:i heard a lot of people who want wipe, so why don't we ask it from game's developers?


Wipe in my opinion is the worst thing to do, because it fixes the problem only temporary.

Find and fixx the bug(can be hard i know it) or use an older, stable version of the software part that causes the crash.

that is true, but I just have a feeling that devs don't have time anymore for HnH development and they are focused on salem OR they don't have a clue what to do with that bug.
In any case, I would suggest opening source of HnH or accepting more devs into development team to help development and bug fixes. It's shame that HnH will die that way and in my opinion salem would not even be good enough as HnH is. 3D destroyed many old good games: examples: age of empires, settlers,... And I doubt here will be different. It's like a charm to have isometric 2D graphics and even better to have beautiful one!
I hope devs won't waste away that game or they will come to sense to open source code of HnH and allow community to continue development of HnH.
I'm also for that we get more realms not only one server. That would spread out people and maps will be big enough for everyone. Maps are too small now, you can't find peaceful place you can't find good clay or water spot that is not taken... Now you have only 2options: join village that have all that resources or play as hermit and die as soon one nolifer with 1000UA and 700 STR comes by and just smash your palisade down.


Devs indeed don't have much time for HnH, and they said already they are not going to accept any developers or publish code - for legal reasons and because it's their game. Seeing as game is free and server barely handles current world - how do you imagine creating more worlds or making this one bigger? Unless you are ready to fund new server, feel free to contact devs about it.
Also, I think that playing with other people and forming villages as well as fighting for resources is one of the main goals in this game. Single hermit will always have only low quality resources available to him. As much as I would like to play this game solo and have access to everything - this is not the spirit of this game, and you have to deal with it.

Also I can't agree that 3d destroyed many games - most of them (like settlers you mentioned) were destroyed by poor design, not 3d.
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Re: Server issues: New server

Postby Butko » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:23 am

They don't even have company and no copyright on game. If somebody wanted to do same game with same idea he could do it and sell it around. Opening source of game will allow community to develop game if they don't have knowledge or time to do it. They are just stubborn and want to make (I don't know ho to say) - something impossible.
World can be bigger if you have less than 400 people on it. Problem is that game is programmed wrong and there is a lot of network traffic and data for server to handle. Just look other mmo games. Some servers can handle even more than 5000 population.
Devs are just a pair of students without any real knowledge how to professionally make games. They had a good idea and they made something. Yes I agree, remarkable work. But with some changes and slow development and no improvement game is going down. Accept it or not. Some major downsides they made: curiosities system - people don't even need to be logged in to get LP. You can now level up multiple characters with only playing one or two. There should be a mixture of old system and new system or something else to prevent botting. This system is not good and made game worse than before. This was only a patch on big wound but blood is till leaking around. Second thing is siege. They seem to unable to balance siege stuff. Also some combat balance would be also nice and more animals and enemies. You level up your UA to 200, you can beat bear. Then what? Nothing better monster to beat? Troll? Too rare to efficiently going to "hunt" them.
They could get new server in no time, just to make game better and payable for like 1€ per month. Everyone could afford that and they could rent 3 more NEW servers where they could put on different realms and each realm could have different rules to play so they could experiment little more.
It is only shame because game is good and addictive, but have some big flaws that can't be done or fixed by only 2 people.
I just hope someone else will make same game and improve HnH because I don't believe HnH will ever be finished and balanced and playable with 1000+ people on one server.
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