Game Development: World 5

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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby lilrfozzy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:21 pm

Senretsu wrote:
Peloquinn wrote:
Bastendorf wrote:OK, I've only been playing for two days, and, you guessed it, I'm done. When I signed up yesterday, the game was brilliant, and I was getting places.


Bastendorf wrote:I can't continue playing this way. We went from doing so good, to both suffering and dying. You gave up our faith in the game when you gave up world four. That's where our Hearths will always be. Until world four comes back, we aren't coming back. Say what you want about us, but the game we were enjoying immensely, yesterday, isn't here any more.



Perfect. Couldn't have put it better myself. The game we were both (my wife and myself) enjoying immensely yesterday isn't here any more.
If you play and play and work hard at making baskets, you should get LP for that. We never botted either, and frankly I detest people who use bots. But if the bots are at fault for unbalancing the game, don't kill the LP system...kill the botting ability. Tons of other MMOs have managed to find a way to do it - why can't Haven and Hearth?

-Peloquinn

This. From what I can tell, I can't farm Cone Cow's either. Does the curiousity only give you LP the first time? My one char is cursed to live on a small island with no means of gaining the LP to learn boatmaking (or even swimming!) and the other is cursed to explore a vast, wretched wasteland with no tools and no food and no players, hoping to stumble upon an acorn tree or something so I can stay alive another 40 minutes to continue walking, walking, walki-Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

Also, it may be a big presumption to assume Jorb and Loftar unfuck the game after a huge population plummet because if nobody plays your game, thats presumably because it sucks ass, and who wants to spend time on a game nobody likes?

So far all the camps I've stumbled upon, either one hearth fire or three, have nothing built around them, and judging from that, and everything I've read from the players who aren't zealots trying to fellate jorb and Loftar for brown-noser points tells me this new version sucks ass.

Please don't ban me for my opinions on this however, despite my dislike of this new game, I'm gonna give it faith that maybe the learning curve is steep but there's some playability left somewhere in this once-glorious game.

My hearth is back in world 4. I guess I'm just an LPless and skill-less wandering starving nomad until I figure out how this game is meant to be playable.



exactly they took out any chances that a new player who does not have every needed resource for whatever your making memorized OHH and that you have to kill the bunny if you want the saw ... it's just become a really hard game to play. if they had tried going for the adventure/exploration instead of straight survival of the fittest he who learns faster wins faster type of game. it just sucks now! so please don't ban me I'm just suggesting you at least add a larger world and an easier way to discover the stuff as you study the curiosities.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby happyface104 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:25 pm

howyadoin988 wrote:Crazy long shut down time indeed.

Must've had a lot of players to log off.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Shaka_Adim » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:36 pm

After about a month i come back to see that world4 i no longer here, i want to check the new one everyone is pissed about but the game says NOPE :(
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby craddle » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:41 pm

Shaka_Adim wrote:After about a month i come back to see that world4 i no longer here, i want to check the new one everyone is pissed about but the game says NOPE :(



Basically, normal actions don't gain you Lp, you can craft/find curiosities which give insane amounts of Lp for little work and when you find a new item, you get 50 LP.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby SeanPan » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:45 pm

craddle wrote:
Shaka_Adim wrote:After about a month i come back to see that world4 i no longer here, i want to check the new one everyone is pissed about but the game says NOPE :(



Basically, normal actions don't gain you Lp, you can craft/find curiosities which give insane amounts of Lp for little work and when you find a new item, you get 50 LP.


Slightly biased opinion there. I would say that to get a lot of the LP items, a lot of work is involved: foraging, chopping, making, paving or combat. How is any of that completely without labor is beyond me.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Rhiannon » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:51 pm

craddle wrote:
Shaka_Adim wrote:After about a month i come back to see that world4 i no longer here, i want to check the new one everyone is pissed about but the game says NOPE :(



Basically, normal actions don't gain you Lp, you can craft/find curiosities which give insane amounts of Lp for little work and when you find a new item, you get 50 LP.


Bullshite, tell him the actual truth, whatup with the sugar coated shit.

you get 50lp for doing some initial things but only the first time. You must then use the curio system from then on to get any lp, 90% of which is EXTREMELY small amount of lp for the time spent on both waiting and gathering the mats. There are a couple of curios however that do give good lp (Soilder ants, ant empress for example) for time spent but only a couple.There is also supposedly "random" curios that you get while doing everyday tasks like farming or mining HOWEVER they are so extremely rare that I've never even seen one and so in the end would be impossible to balance time spent looking with whatever reward they give. You can see a partial list of curios and the payout/waiting ratio in the WIKI to make your own determination of their value.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby bitza » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:52 pm

are you even at 360% learning rhiannon, it's really not as horrible as you're making it out to be
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby zacty » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:54 pm

im starting to get the impression that the people who like the new system and people who dont are using this thread as a battlegrounds for their war
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby thezooblord » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:54 pm

Senretsu wrote:
Peloquinn wrote:
Bastendorf wrote:OK, I've only been playing for two days, and, you guessed it, I'm done. When I signed up yesterday, the game was brilliant, and I was getting places.


Bastendorf wrote:I can't continue playing this way. We went from doing so good, to both suffering and dying. You gave up our faith in the game when you gave up world four. That's where our Hearths will always be. Until world four comes back, we aren't coming back. Say what you want about us, but the game we were enjoying immensely, yesterday, isn't here any more.



Perfect. Couldn't have put it better myself. The game we were both (my wife and myself) enjoying immensely yesterday isn't here any more.
If you play and play and work hard at making baskets, you should get LP for that. We never botted either, and frankly I detest people who use bots. But if the bots are at fault for unbalancing the game, don't kill the LP system...kill the botting ability. Tons of other MMOs have managed to find a way to do it - why can't Haven and Hearth?

-Peloquinn

This. From what I can tell, I can't farm Cone Cow's either. blah blah

Two things. First off, are you really legitimately people who have just been playing two days, and not just more complaining alt accounts? You seem pretty knowledgeable about HnH terminology and pretty dedicated to the game after ONE day of W4. Broke your faith in the game? You had just started it.

Also why does everyone who complains about the new system insist on farming cone cows, it is incredibly silly to waste any time on that. Ants are easy to acquire and procure tons of LP. Meanwhile having chariots or wishbones going off in the background is nice too
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Shaka_Adim » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:55 pm

man i want to play it even more :D Such a controversial update is very much to my liking as everyone has learn new stuff.
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