Game Development: World 5

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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Junkfist » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:58 pm

PERHAPS THE SAME CAN BE SAID OF ALL RELIGIONS...
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Serpensio » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:59 pm

jorb wrote:
Serpensio wrote:The good thing though, is, at least we're still a Capitalist Society


Hanging on for dear life by a very thin thread. Yes, you are.

I think I know well the political situation of my own Country. I also know that, should that thread break, America will be completely crippled, and the world will sink into even greater turmoil then it is already in.

Yeah, Armageddon is neigh.
Why can't the Socialists and Communists just wait for the Millenium after Armageddon to get their utopia? It'll never happen while Man is corrupt.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Naeght » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:03 pm

I find it funny each time people say Obama is trying to bring socialism into the USA.
You might notice socialism coming when there are massive strikes, civil war, and a violent uprising by the oppressed masses. Not when someone trying to maintain America as a ruling imperialist country launches something as silly and Keynesian as OBAMACARE.

PS: Do you guys notice how much the thread derails from complaining when Rhiannon isn't around?
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Serpensio » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:07 pm

Potjeh wrote:America is quickly sliding into feudalism, though.

Better register as Republican, maybe it's not too late to get your own fief.

So you think Big Business is corrupt?
And why don't you think the Government can't be even more corrupt?

Big Business can't tax > 50% of your income (If you live in New York) and then spend it on getting itself re-elected to keep you in a state of dependency on Federal Aid while they live as much if not more lavishly then the Big Business you so despise.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Serpensio » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:12 pm

Naeght wrote:I find it funny each time people say Obama is trying to bring socialism into the USA.
You might notice socialism coming when there are massive strikes, civil war, and a violent uprising by the oppressed masses. Not when someone trying to maintain America as a ruling imperialist country launches something as silly and Keynesian as OBAMACARE.

PS: Do you guys notice how much the thread derails from complaining when Rhiannon isn't around?

So just because an uprising isn't violent, that means it doesn't matter? (TEA party much?)
If things really did get violent, then it would already be too late to change things.

Are you even sure you know what socialism means? OR what exactly the Obamacare Bill really does (Not what Obama and Democrats "Say" it does, but what it really truly and honestly does?)
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Mudaline » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:13 pm

Serpensio wrote:
Potjeh wrote:America is quickly sliding into feudalism, though.

Better register as Republican, maybe it's not too late to get your own fief.

So you think Big Business is corrupt?
And why don't you think the Government can't be even more corrupt?

Big Business can't tax > 50% of your income (If you live in New York) and then spend it on getting itself re-elected to keep you in a state of dependency on Federal Aid while they live as much if not more lavishly then the Big Business you so despise.



Implying either Capitalism or Communism will ever function "properly". Man is corrupt, yes, and because of that we will always have politicians who serve themselves before the people, and CEO's who serve themselves before their employees. Arguing one way or the other is foolish. You should be more concerned with coming out "on top", so you and your loved ones live comfortably and happily. The political system of a nation is just something to be manipulated to further the gains of certain social classes, no matter your country of origin.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Potjeh » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:18 pm

Serpensio wrote:
Potjeh wrote:America is quickly sliding into feudalism, though.

Better register as Republican, maybe it's not too late to get your own fief.

So you think Big Business is corrupt?
And why don't you think the Government can't be even more corrupt?

Big Business can't tax > 50% of your income (If you live in New York) and then spend it on getting itself re-elected to keep you in a state of dependency on Federal Aid while they live as much if not more lavishly then the Big Business you so despise.

I'm saying the governor will appoint his cronies as financial managers (aka lords) of towns so they can tithe him with the part of money they'll syphon out of those towns.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Naeght » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:37 pm

Serpensio wrote:
Naeght wrote:I find it funny each time people say Obama is trying to bring socialism into the USA.
You might notice socialism coming when there are massive strikes, civil war, and a violent uprising by the oppressed masses. Not when someone trying to maintain America as a ruling imperialist country launches something as silly and Keynesian as OBAMACARE.

PS: Do you guys notice how much the thread derails from complaining when Rhiannon isn't around?

So just because an uprising isn't violent, that means it doesn't matter? (TEA party much?)
If things really did get violent, then it would already be too late to change things.

Are you even sure you know what socialism means? OR what exactly the Obamacare Bill really does (Not what Obama and Democrats "Say" it does, but what it really truly and honestly does?)


I assure you the bourgeoisie has managed countless time to crush revolutions. And you are clearly mistaking to different kinds of revolution, democratic and proletariat ones. Either way, im jumping off this derailed train.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Serpensio » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:54 pm

Mudaline wrote:Implying either Capitalism or Communism will ever function "properly". Man is corrupt, yes, and because of that we will always have politicians who serve themselves before the people, and CEO's who serve themselves before their employees. Arguing one way or the other is foolish. You should be more concerned with coming out "on top", so you and your loved ones live comfortably and happily. The political system of a nation is just something to be manipulated to further the gains of certain social classes, no matter your country of origin.

That is absolutely correct.
Neither is perfect, however, Capitalism is the lesser of the two evils. It allows people who work hard to get ahead, while communism keeps everyone equally poor except the ruling class.

Actually, America's Constitution was written with the sole purpose of preventing an unbalance of power, and keeping the government in check so it does not overstep it's bounds. Unfortunately, it's been picked at for too long, unforeseen attacks have circumvented it, and many lawmakers completely disregard it. Thus we have the unfortunate state we are in today.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby pyrale » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:01 am

Serpensio wrote:That is absolutely correct.
Neither is perfect, however, Capitalism is the lesser of the two evils. It allows people who work hard to get ahead...

Or it allows people to work hard to get $6 an hour and still lose their house with 2*2 part-time jobs, because their parents weren't rich enough to pay them school.

Meanwhile, some countries mix both and get fairly good results. Hail Sweden & Finland (also, their girls are crazy).
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