Rhiannon wrote:Serpensio wrote:Not yet, thankfully. We're still a Republic last I checked.
Though we do have a faction here that is doing everything in it's power to turn us socialist/communist, and undermine our Constitution. Unfortunately, many programs have been enacted through that faction's efforts that have turned us more socialist then our Founding Fathers intended.
Aww isnt that a cute little republican nazi who watches fox news in between scratching his nuts and pissing in the sink!
Funny that the "founding fathers' would line up every member of the "tea party" and have them SHOT. Just read any ofbtheir writings from Thomas Jefferson to Tom Payne to James Madison. ANY YET these idiots wanna screech red herring buizz words like "socialist"..lol Blind sheep cannon fodder for coporate tyrants seeking to turn this country into a corporate theocracy and adre envoke the "founding fathers"..lol Funny as asboslute brilliant fuck
Insults do you no good in advancing your opinions.
I also find your claim rather hard to believe, and I'll use words from those Founding Fathers to back myself up:
Declaration of Independence - Thomas Jefferson wrote:We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
US Constitution Amendment II wrote:A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
US Constitution Amendment X wrote:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Common Sense - Thomas Paine wrote:SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.
Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise. For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him, out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expense and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others.
(Here's the full text for Common Sense -
http://www.ushistory.org/paine/commonsense/singlehtml.htm)
These are the ideals of the TEA party. Rather then line them up and shoot, I would expect the founding fathers to join hands as brothers-in-arms, petitioning for redress from the Government. The Boston Tea Party started over a tax even less then you or I pay now.
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by howyadoin988 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:15 am 
