The Ghost of Christmas Future, II

[Ninijutsu]

The secret to finding nice strangers is being able to kick their ass. If you have confidence that people won't attack you (or will fail if they try), and you are careful to present yourself as a benign figure, you will find more conversation than confrontation in the wild.

[jtpitner]

The secret to finding nice strangers is being able to kick their ass. If you have confidence that people won't attack you (or will fail if they try), and you are careful to present yourself as a benign figure, you will find more conversation than confrontation in the wild.

What Nini is trying to say is agro strangers on site then chase them while you have your conversation... then when you are done talking just pretend to get stuck on likke 5 trees....

[VDZ]

If you were to dump all of Haven's world and player data into a file, how big would the file be?

24.5 GB maps + 7.5 GB accounts/characters.

Sounds bigger than I expected. Lack of optimizations or are there just too many tiny details to store (positions down to the tiniest detail etc)?

[loftar]

Well, probably the single greatest culprit is the fact that the smallest unit of map that the server deals with is 1000x1000 tiles, which means that even a house world of 4x4 tiles still takes 1 MB to store all the nil-tiles. I could, of course, optimize it by using more dynamic map sizes, but only at the cost of more computation in fetching tiles, so since storing 25 GB doesn't even enter into the realm of the problematic, it has seemed to me like a reasonable time-space tradeoff to do.

[ChildhoodObesity]

The secret to finding nice strangers is being able to kick their ass. If you have confidence that people won't attack you (or will fail if they try), and you are careful to present yourself as a benign figure, you will find more conversation than confrontation in the wild.

letz hope u dont meet ozzy in da forest HAUHAUHEUHAUHUAHUEHAE

[ArvinJA]

Well, probably the single greatest culprit is the fact that the smallest unit of map that the server deals with is 1000x1000 tiles, which means that even a house world of 4x4 tiles still takes 1 MB to store all the nil-tiles. I could, of course, optimize it by using more dynamic map sizes, but only at the cost of more computation in fetching tiles, so since storing 25 GB doesn't even enter into the realm of the problematic, it has seemed to me like a reasonable time-space tradeoff to do.

plz link house worlds, would be so cool to have different houses with a common basement

[sabinati]

Well, probably the single greatest culprit is the fact that the smallest unit of map that the server deals with is 1000x1000 tiles, which means that even a house world of 4x4 tiles still takes 1 MB to store all the nil-tiles. I could, of course, optimize it by using more dynamic map sizes, but only at the cost of more computation in fetching tiles, so since storing 25 GB doesn't even enter into the realm of the problematic, it has seemed to me like a reasonable time-space tradeoff to do.

plz link house worlds, would be so cool to have different houses with a common basement

better yet let's do away with pocket universes in buildings altogether

[Kaios]

better yet let's do away with pocket universes in buildings altogether

That would be my preference for sure. I have always felt instanced zones have no place in a sandbox game and if it is possible to do away with them that would be great.

[jorb]

Doing away with pocket-worlds is a long-term ambition, but our first iteration will still have them.

[Ninijutsu]

Is it a big deal whether there are pocket universes or not? What would be so great about not having them besides saving storage space on the server?