Game Development: Salem & Haven

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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby Thurrok » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:18 am

I wonder what Paradox's [legal] ownership will consist of once the game is done. It'd be teh suck to see some future game-changing improvement in Salem that cannot be backported to HnH because of copyrights.
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby Potjeh » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:21 am

You can't copyright ideas.
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby Gedrean » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:22 am

Potjeh wrote:You can't copyright ideas.


But you can patent them. See: 1-Click Ordering.
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby Jackard » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:03 am

Annatar wrote:Will there be knock-on bonuses to H&H from Salem? Perhaps a 3d H&H client down the road?
Salem does sound interesting, but I'm hot for the european feel of H&H, and colonial New England doesn't really fire my imagination.

Actually I wouldn't really care about a 3d client for H&, but still. Is there the possibility of Salem being used as a testbed for ideas for H&H, or would it work the other way around? Or are their features and development being kept completely seperate?

maybe civilization-based darkness, more mechanics that make night/day interesting (like how fishing changes)
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby halloween » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:12 am

Jgudge..I was referring to salem when I said that..I do beleave we all know what state H&H is in..;)
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby Onionfighter » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:53 am

Thurrok wrote:I wonder what Paradox's [legal] ownership will consist of once the game is done. It'd be teh suck to see some future game-changing improvement in Salem that cannot be backported to HnH because of copyrights.

Very true (besides copyright). Hopefully, since Jorb was/is a law student, he will avoid constrictive contracts. Also, it is apparently quite hard to patent game mechanics: http://www.sfweekly.com/2010-09-08/news/farmvillains/
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby jgudge » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:57 am

halloween wrote:Jgudge..I was referring to salem when I said that..I do beleave we all know what state H&H is in..;)

Yeah, i know, but i used H&H as an example. This game isn't "technically" released, but still 1000+ ppl play it. That's all i was saying.
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby Bumble » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:49 am

So it's Haven in a new pair of shoes... lol. Also... Eww... Europeans making a game about my beloved land!

One more thing! This game is extremely grind oriented, with long periods of drawn out dullness and has no end game to speak of, except for harassing those weaker than you (but, player interaction, trade, blah blah blah... no lol). I don't see it becoming a major success. Unless they are marketing it for the Koreans and thats why they're going for cutesy animal crossing graphics. <- lol

OK, that is all. Good luck and have fun you peoples!
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby jgudge » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:36 am

Bumble wrote:Eww... Europeans making a game about my beloved land!

Everyone loves Europeans, they're so cuddly.
Bumble wrote:One more thing! This game is extremely grind oriented, with long periods of drawn out dullness and has no end game to speak of, except for harassing those weaker than you (but, player interaction, trade, blah blah blah... no lol).

Grind is god, i do agree that there is alot of grind, but if you get a settlement going, and a group of ppl together, it can be alot of fun. Nothing like a person trying to raid you to get the adrenaline going, let me tell you that.
Bumble wrote:I don't see it becoming a major success.

Haven or Salem, b/c haven pop = 1600+ at peak time, that not including accounts generated, and characters active. Also not including active accounts. This is just the number of people playing at that time.
Bumble wrote:Unless they are marketing it for the Koreans and thats why they're going for cutesy animal crossing graphics. <- lol

Yay, racism is funny.

Also, you can't laugh at your own statement. I won't allow it. :|
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Re: Game Development: Salem & Haven

Postby Lahrmid » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:38 am

He's entitled to his own opinion, and should not have to be told to gtfo.
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