Game Development: Salem & Haven

[Borgaaz]

IMHO, I love Salem meanwhile I havent even killed deers yet, my village of 5-10 went down to 1. Me. Guess what? Im going around hunting crickets 24/7 to get some Silver up and make something of myself. Just like in Haven, theres always something to do. Bored? Go hunting bring some food in for stats, for hide to sell... Otherwise, why even play if you dont hope to advance, Shit, im playing until I can get myself stealing and killing (for defense ofc)

[hazzor]

IMHO, I love Salem meanwhile I havent even killed deers yet, my village of 5-10 went down to 1. Me. Guess what? Im going around hunting crickets 24/7 to get some Silver up and make something of myself. Just like in Haven, theres always something to do. Bored? Go hunting bring some food in for stats, for hide to sell... Otherwise, why even play if you dont hope to advance, Shit, im playing until I can get myself stealing and killing (for defense ofc)

and when you get there you'll find that haven does it all better, and more

[Tonkyhonk]

and when you get there you'll find that haven does it all better, and more

otherwise, why is it called "closed beta" and not official release yet. think harder.

[dra6o0n]

and when you get there you'll find that haven does it all better, and more

otherwise, why is it called "closed beta" and not official release yet. think harder.

Because you really don't realize that Haven never got a open release status, it's still a alpha (or so it seems) status. It will be alpha and always stay alpha until Salem crash and burn. The devs are tied up to Salem, and will have to develop for it so long as their contract holds with paradox interactive.

For a alpha, it's been in two years of development.
Salem is a 'closed beta' and yet shows less than half of haven's alpha potential.

I'm pretty sure the whole 'Make it 3D' thing screwed up the development pacing (the devs were working on a 2d game, and I think they never modeled in 3d before).

Yeah some times I've been bashing haven a year back for it lacking balance, but I at least know it has a much better potential than Salem...
Salem looks like it's dragging it's dead parent's corpse... After it shot it in the head.

[sabinati]

uh, haven was being actively developed for 2 years. salem has been going for about 7 months.

[hazzor]

not sure why people take it as though i said, haven will always have more features (even if i do think they will always be better), all i said was that it's boring as hell and there's nothing to do, i'm sure they'll develop on it and add features, but, currently, i can't stand grinding 4 stats all day everyday so that i can do anything interesting, which you're punished for, time spent doing interesting things is time not spent grinding humours, which you need to keep up the interesting things.

[Tonkyhonk]

"time spent for grinding chars" is what many of us have asked jorb to implement in many of the curio feedback threads in the past.
one of those threads is here

[Sevenless]

Salem shows potential to be Haven 2.0, but the update speed has been really slow. 1-2 weeks between getting something like a sled or a cabinet. I'm hoping they're working on one of the bigger things like domestication or witchcraft in the mean time, but I've got no real clue. No one does other than the inner circle maybe. Jorb and Loftar are a small dev team I know, but with the serious lack of crafter side content it's really difficult to keep crafter types interested in the game at all. Something as small as buildings influencing purity would help, but currently they don't have any influence. The community is really different from Haven too, and I frankly miss this community of arseholes compared to the more carebear dominated salem.

Not to mention the forums from paradox are absolutely atrocious. You have to either let your account age or have your post count go up before you can store more than 2 messages at a time. And it counts your outgoing mails in the number too -.- And I've yet to figure out a way to just search the salem subforum. Probably possible but simple search queries bring stuff back from every game in the paradox forums.

[painhertz]

"Not to mention the forums from paradox are absolutely atrocious."

This 3 times.

[Andrew78910]

hello does anyone know if there is a new world or if theres going to be one anytime soon? The last time i was playing was 4 months ago.