A Plea for Moderation

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Vaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:11 pm

Two Recent Bans that ought to be enforced forum-wide to similar cases, or—on the grounds of hypocrisy, be reduced.
Lord_of_War wrote:Excellent. You mad bro?

{That was just for amanda. She is supposed to be ignoring, but her complaints indicate otherwise.

BANNED 7 DAYS

windmaker wrote:....
1) everyone is feel to write here, except for make spam or very stupid things, a lot of people call between us fag, and other insults (because is part of the game/comunity etc) if you dont tolerate this, you can leave the forum, yes, its free..
2) To Lord, dont fight with Amanda44, u lost your time, her defend to friend, and you , me , or nobody can stop it , is stupid...
3) To Coles, you are crying or just seems that ?
4) To Coles again. you dont put me in the ignore list in the past :?: (i remember some post where u write that, i have good memory in general) , but probably u like how i write (with my bad english :oops:) ???? ...
5) To Coles , "Don't be a blatantly stupid/unfunny troll, derail otherwise interesting threads with your trolling" > this apply to you too, i not remember some guy claiming a ban , or crying to the mods for this.. probably is a waste of time..
6) To Amanda44, really i dont care if u defend that guy, but i give you a tip, do it is stupid ;)
7) To Coles, if you feel offended in internet... wow.. you have a big problems IRL. and now I feel sad for you little fag
8)To AnyMod who read that... im gonna laugh a lot today... dont go in the trap of that fag ;)

BANNED 7 DAYS

Below is the immediate instance of hypocrisy, which begs this question of forum-wide moderation or a reduction of the above bans.
sabinati wrote:i'm a fag

sabinati wrote:faginati

ChildhoodObesity wrote:
sabinati wrote:i'm a fag

ahahahhhahaha fag

sabinati wrote:i don't have sex with mans though (i'm a virgin)

ChildhoodObesity wrote:o ok

This is not simply a matter of clicking on the report button. Moderators have shown autonomy before, and these recent cases of mocking(shitposting) a banned player show no absolving distinction. Moderators of these forums should consistently hold each post they read in scrutiny, including their own.

So, as I make this plea: there should be a lift of these bans or a forum-wide crackdown.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Kaios » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:32 pm

Are you seriously making this comparison? I mean, yeah, who knows why sabinati would post this inane drivel afterwards as he is a complicated man but the bans are certainly not undeserved.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Amanda44 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:39 pm

I'm sorry but I fail to see any hypocrisy, except from LoW ofc, hypocrisy would apply if Sabi picked a forum user, lets say you for arguments sake, and then jumped on every post or thread you ever made calling you a 'fag' or 'faggot' for well over a year whilst adding nothing to any actual discussion taking place. It's not simply a matter of windmaker using the word 'faggot', it's the consistency of it directed at one person in particular - that is commonly known as harassment, sh**posting and falls into the category of forum rules that Jordan highlighted.
Sabi making a joke afterwards and calling himself a 'fag' can hardly be described as similar, it is neither excessive swearing or hate speech, he is directing it at himself.

As for LoW, please point out where the hypocrisy lies as I can only see the obvious, i.e. - after trying to excuse windmakers behavior as being part of expecting criticism if you post, he then objects to my critique of politely pointing out the difference between criticism and harassment and proceeds to call me names and tells me not to reply to his posts!
When you put someone on ignore you are then given the option of displaying their post if you so desire, majority of the time I do choose to ignore him, despite his jumping on my posts and trying to force my hand, however, occasionally other peoples responses to him pique my interest and I decide to look and in this instance respond. There is no hypocrisy there, not from Sabi and not from myself, I am a grown woman, the decision to look or not is my own.

As Sabi rightly points out and, I may add, in LoWs own opinion, you should expect criticism if you put yourself out there, this does not change because LoW doesn't like it when the criticism is directed at him.

@ LoW - Do you seriously think I would ever open another pm sent by you after the last lot! If you have anything to say to me in future you can do it in public where everyone can see your mentality for themselves. If at any time I feel the need to read or respond to something you post then I shall.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby LoW2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:42 pm

I was under the assumption you were going to ignore me. Are you proving me wrong? You seem to not understand how ignoring works. Criticism can be beneficial, but not from you. You simply aren't constructive. Only complaints (bitch). I will take criticism from anyone that has not previously stated willful ignorance. Either you are lying about ignoring or ignore and yet complain about what you do not know. That's the logical flaw that i complained about. If you want to complain do the decent thing and actually read what I have to say and then criticize. And keep an open mind you myopic troglodyte.

Definition of ignore (vt)
ig·nore
[ ig náwr ]
refuse to notice somebody or something: to refuse to notice or pay attention to somebody or something


I only want to be truly ignored by you. Is that so damn much to ask that you are incapable of it or are you just ignorant of the concept. That said, please fuck off. You never have anything decent to say.

Yes evasion, but I feel I need to respond to this crap.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:53 pm

LoW2 wrote:I was under the assumption you were going to ignore me. Are you proving me wrong? You seem to not understand how ignoring works. Criticism can be beneficial, but not from you. You simply aren't constructive. Only complaints.

Definition of ignore (vt)
ig·nore
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refuse to notice somebody or something: to refuse to notice or pay attention to somebody or something


I only want to be truly ignored by you. Is that so damn much to ask that you are incapable of it or are you just ignorant of the concept. That said, please fuck off.

Yes evasion, but I feel I need to respond tho this crap.


Circumventing a ban. Serious violation!
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby LoW2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:58 pm

yes im windmaker. just log in for send PM's and write this, not is like ban evasion but meh.

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:13 pm

LoW2 wrote:
yes im windmaker. just log in for send PM's and write this, not is like ban evasion but meh.

precedent mr lawyer

alt not banned


A lack of a judicial decision because a case has never been brought does not constitute precedent that an act is acceptable.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Amanda44 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:23 pm

You seem to not understand how ignoring works

LoW - please, I am well aware of the definition of ignore, what you seem to be unable to understand is the definition of choice, and apparently 'complaints'.
When you put someone on ignore you are then given the option of displaying their post if you so desire, majority of the time I do choose to ignore him, despite his jumping on my posts and trying to force my hand, however, occasionally other peoples responses to him pique my interest and I decide to look and in this instance respond. There is no hypocrisy there, not from Sabi and not from myself, I am a grown woman, the decision to look or not is my own.


If you want to complain do the decent thing and actually read what I have to say and then criticize.

Erm, ..........
Postby Amanda44 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:03 pm
Lord_of_War wrote:I edited my post. There's a reason. I'm making a legitimate criticism of your argument. Don't assume otherwise. This is not even trolling. Please see a doctor if your condition persists. When you choose to post you choose to put yourself out there. Expect criticism.

There is a huge difference between expecting criticism and being blatantly targeted continuously simply because that person has some kind of grudge or obsession with you. You should know as you do the exact same thing.


If you truly want to be ignored by me then don't comment on my posts, don't send me pm's and post sense rather than trying to undermine when you don't have the capacity for it. Absolutely nothing in that last one has any meaning or bearing on anything I have said.

Also, could you please decide on what you want to say before you post instead of editing it over and over when you think of something else detrimental to say, it's hard to keep track of, lol.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Tonkyhonk » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:33 pm

just completely ignore him, amanda. he is not worth your time, nor anyone elses.

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vaku, you probably dont understand it, but its faginati's kindness, he cant let others feel bad alone for being a fag and a virgin. he had to join in to make them feel better. he does that very often and most forumers here acknowledge it.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby sabinati » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:52 pm

LoW2 wrote:Yes evasion, but I feel I need to respond to this crap.


while one is technically allowed to post in this thread with an alt while one's main account is banned, it is really only allowable for the purpose of discussing the issue of the ban, not continuing your dumb argument.
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