Olympus v.s. Wayneville: Decision reached.

[Xarx]

I say they should get a serious character nerf. And yes, they deserve it for exploiting a bug.

Now people are going to start screaming at me 'ITS AN ALPHA WE ARE SUPPOSED TO EXPLOIT BUG', well yes, its an Alpha, but NO, you are NOT supposed to mess up the game with bugs. You are supposed to test the game, find the bugs, and REPORT them, for them to be REMOVED. Not profit off bugs like these guys did.

But why in hell got Delamore (and other bugged chars around) no character nerf? I.e. Delamore got at least a bunch of LPs (like 40mil.) too. Ironically he killed Voodoodog and other residents by invading their village to revenge g1reals death. So i think every bugchar will use his strengh in favor of other chars in certan cases.

I wasn't playing when Delamore abused that bug but what I have picked up on is one major difference, he actually reported it and abused it while it was still around where you guys hid the bug to abuse it for as long as you could. If I am wrong on that please correct me.

As for your other part, Voodoo and his gang at that time were going around stealing and killing, If he didn't kill them I have no doubt someone else would have. You guys went on a powertrip, Threatening to kill people, screwing up villages etc. Completely different.

[Xybb]

You guys went on a powertrip, Threatening to kill people, screwing up villages etc. Completely different.

Dear omniscient Xarx,

I'll quote myself, just for you:

Just stop talking about things you don't know anything about, most of your assumptions are wrong or at least to vague.

Regards,
Xybb

Btw., Kruemelmonster has nothing to do with our village.

[VoodooDog]

Please, stop talking about things you don't know anything.

its boring, you allways talk the same.

[Kruemelmonster]

I wasn't playing when Delamore abused that bug but what I have picked up on is one major difference, he actually reported it and abused it while it was still around where you guys hid the bug to abuse it for as long as you could. If I am wrong on that please correct me.

As for your other part, Voodoo and his gang at that time were going around stealing and killing, If he didn't kill them I have no doubt someone else would have. You guys went on a powertrip, Threatening to kill people, screwing up villages etc. Completely different.

First of all i am not a member of wayneville and i agree with you, that abusing a bug and propagte a lie is a bad manner. But i still can't see a difference between this bugchars and Delamore. Reporting the bug for Delamore was easy, cause that bug allowed to get a bunch of LPs in a little while. So reporting was no harm for him and prevented only possible competitors to bug LP too. And i am sure that there are some more bugged chars.

I am not versed with the voodoodog part. All i know is that many chars died and some chars were definite peaceful. But it was not my point to judge this. All i want to say was that bugchars use their power in favor of other chars, which porbably would not be the case without this power.
The powertrip by wayneville is totally beyond of my ken so i won't express myself, but would support my point of view.

I would like to see capped LP and stats and a more skill based pvp system.

[warrri]

Sidenotes included. Check for the *

I didnt want to get upset about it anymore, but xybb's pathetic way of trying to cover things up makes me sad, so heres the full story:
Voodoodog and some other guys, including Leah built up a small village, they were 6 or 7 people, most became inactive but more and more things vanished form the village, they decided to make a new one so that only the 3 active people of them had keys to the village, by that time Leah was either inactive or already a member of Wayneville. I decided to join them and helped building their village. As i was the only one grinding 40cons to reach their iron mine, i built a cauldron, meatgrinder etc. Some days later Leah discovers our new village and claims some of the equipment are his own which he stole for the old village, which isnt true at this point, because they were already gone, either taken by Leah himself or by some other thieves from the old village, all the equipment in the new village was built by ourselves. We refuse to take Leah into our new village and give him "his" items back. Again somedays later we discover our Palisade to be broken, our appletries and cut down. Loom, cauldron, Meatgrinder, chests, everything gone, either destroyed or stolen, it doesnt matter. I, knowing klaue(*1) from before mapreset, ask him to track the invader, he follows the tracks and...summons Leah on his hearth. I ask him to kill him for me, but he refuses, because Leah is a member of Wayneville (klaue too). At this point the stronger members of wayneville (xybb, burgingham) are threatening to kill whoever summons and kills Leah. (*2) and (*3). Voodoodog makes many forumposts about bugged chars of Wayneville members hiding and protecting thieves and vandalists. Xybb claims, voodoo is doing the same, as he compares my case to Leah's, which doesn't really fit. One more day later we see our village completely wiped out, done by Xybb, as he posted the picture on the german forum. . The Flamewar gets even more intense, voodoo hires delamore to kill xybb with the tracks he got from our village, it turns out Xybb was on the kin list of our Lawspeaker, so he couldnt have left scents by destryoing our village, instead they tricked us with a similar named alt, which delamore killed and thought its Xybb.

So far with my part of the story, now yours Xybb, pretty please. And dont forget to mention the things we dont know about.

Do you maen your stats?
[15:05] <Xybb> [x] 200 constitution
[15:06] <kimya> you and all your alts together i assume^^
[15:06] <Xybb> my alts all got 10 con
[15:06] <kimya> must have a lot of alts then :p
[15:06] <Xybb> nono
[15:06] <Xybb> i am a great swimmer
[15:07] <kimya> impressive, but why?
[15:07] <kimya> it slows every other stat down
[15:07] <Xybb> just for fun
[15:07] <kimya>
[15:07] <Xybb> con is not my highest stat
[15:08] <kimya> its not?
[15:08] <kimya> wow
[15:08] <Xybb> but ppl don't believe me =(

Do you mean how LESS lp you got by that bug?

Original von Xerxes225

Wir hatten das Glück die Epic Kohle mit Quality 110 Millionen in unsere Finger zu bekommen, haben Epic Cast gemacht. Hatten Epic Meatgrinder, Epic Waffen und Rüstungen....wir waren unbesiegbar und haben LP gegrindet wie die Bekloppten.
Und nun haben sie es einfach gefixt....dabei hab ich erst 10 Millionen LP......

Note: This is from the german forum, xerxes is burgingham
Translation: we were lucky to get the q110 m coal, made epic cast, meatgrinder weapons armor, we were invulnerable and grindeg LP like idiots, and now they fixed it, and i only got 10m lp by now....

Or do you mean you never tried to hide the bug?

TheEnigmist wrote:
Used it.... the coal doesn't work maybe it was only a dispay bug...

Original von Xerxes225
OMG sie haben es gefixt. Nu können wirs ja erzählen........

Oh they fixed, well now can tell it anyway ...

Or do you mean the whole story, which i just explained?

*1 We all(xybb,burgingham,voodoodog,leah,me etc) know eachother from a german forum, we had plans to make a big city together before the mapreset, but the plans failed.
*2 One day later Leah a post that he wants to quit the game anyway, but voodoodog still wants to have Leah dead, a flamewar starts in the german forum.
*3 I was member of wayneville, but becamse bored of the game, so i spawned at rob, got some reeks of theft from goon territory, tracked the perpetrators hearth and wanted to summon him, but it was impossible due to hops overlaying his hearth, so i got mad and drowned myself on purpose to quit the game. However getting bored after some days i started a new char.

[Xybb]

I left scents btw., because having a village member on the kin list doesn't mean you got access to the village.

[warrri]

Swarley was the Lawspeaker, also it was his claim. I dont know in which way this changes the result of scents or not. However, even if you left scents and it was our fault to give delamore the wrong ones, it doesnt change the story.

[burgingham]

I don't know what you are expecting of your "revelation" warrri, but can we not just drop it? We discussed this matter at length in the german forum unable to reach any conclusion, why continue here? It's pointless.
Let's just wait for the devs to make up their minds, we will have to live with their decision anyway. Maybe this will mean the dropout of the major part of the german community from the game, maybe not. We will see.

[Chakravanti]

Nah, I'm pretty sure Voodoodog will be here when you're gone. Assuming this new lockdown doesn't mean he's fucked way the fuck out in BFE.

[Kruemelmonster]

I don't know what you are expecting of your "revelation" warrri, but can we not just drop it? We discussed this matter at length in the german forum unable to reach any conclusion, why continue here? It's pointless.
Let's just wait for the devs to make up their minds, we will have to live with their decision anyway. Maybe this will mean the dropout of the major part of the german community from the game, maybe not. We will see.

Why should maybe 3 active chars, that lost LPs and stats affact the dropout of the major part of the german community? A stupid threat isn't it?

All bugchars should treated the same. And bugging should be less usefull by capped stats and LP in the future. It seems that your village bugged far too many items, which affect the whole world. So bugusing should not be allowed in future cause the consequences for the whole world are too big.

But it would be unfair to punish you in this case, while other bugchars got no punishment in the past. On the other hand it is still an alpha where no guaranty is given and i hope that a totally new skill system will be implemented in the future.

If you use high q items after discovery by jorb to damage the whole system, things should be different of course.