A Plea for Moderation

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Dzedajus » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:37 pm

Vaku wrote:Tracing my accusation of hypocrisy requires acknowledging the rulebreak.

sabinati writes in both cases, respective of time:
Reason: if you don't want people to read or respond to your posts, don't write them.

Reason: shitposting constantly


Note the lack of citation to the rules which sabinati himself published. Does this not show enough the prevalence that there lacks a standard to which these punishments are measured?

We must assume that indeed, sabinati was acting on a rulebreak, otherwise the bans, particularly the ban of Lord_of_War, are being made with no sound accord, and are worse than hypocritical, they are groundless and should be lifted.

Before going further with Lord_of_War's ban, we should first establish if sabinati banned Lord_of_War from this page viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32976&start=350#p473171 to this page viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32976&start=360 ,in that instance—with ample reason.

Windmaker's case rests on the fact that we have no standard. Mockery, as shown by sabinati and ChildhoodObesity, feeding on Arcanist's posting, without this standard, constitutes just as well as shitposting / derailment / spam, which is what some might view as bannable. Indeed the rules as published by sabinati show them to be spam.
sabinati wrote:The forum is not your blog! Threads not even remotely related to the game may be moderated!


To retain sabinati's, ChildhoodObesity's, and Arcanist's skirting offenses, is to suggest that windmaker too skirts the line, and warrants no ban, especially when there lacks a standard for foul language and offense, when windmaker himself, per Arcanist's evidence, shows he does not use the word "fag" as it has been conceived to mean in Jordan Coles' appeal for a ban.

I again make my plea, that the bans either be reduced or become enforced with a clear standard (hell, I'll even help to rewrite the rules, provide graphics and crap so everyone is clear of do's and don't's).

tl;dr MODS = GODS
If those people weren't banned then mods = fags.
Shitposting with retarded comments is enough of a reason for a break from all this fun.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby LoW2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:39 pm

Turns out there is a rather more in depth etymology.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faggot
https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab ... ric%C3%B3n
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fagot

earlier and dialect, contemptuous word for a woman or child, probably from fagot
First Known Use: 1914

Middle English fagot, from Anglo-French
First Known Use: 14th century

Did not take on sexual connotation until later. Windmaker will have to explain more how it is in spanish. More research is required.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby snoog » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:45 pm

Amanda44 wrote:
Vaku wrote:
when windmaker himself, per Arcanist's evidence, shows he does not use the word "fag" as it has been conceived to mean in Jordan Coles' appeal for a ban.


viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22724&p=470919#p470919
Ok.

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=27343&p=347763&hilit=faggot&sid=72da94bc21dab71961cde517a88430a0#p347763
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23926&p=294556&hilit=faggot&sid=7eade434adc0219093c700be4b225b54#p294556
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=26227&p=328322&hilit=faggot&sid=72da94bc21dab71961cde517a88430a0#p328322

"Ok".
your faggotfriend is a fucking hyprocrite :), sabi not banned me for say to him fag, him banned me for "shitpost" when I say my opinion .

use the search function.. not is hard.
i want see more bans for people calling faggot/fag/faggit or anyway word ... 70% of this users was banned with security.
and about shitpost, exists worst shitpost than people writing a opinion, like that thread about a goat game... 100% shits, 100% hyprocrite, from users and mod.

Yes Jordan Coles, FYI you are a fucking hypocrite
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby jordancoles » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:49 pm

snoog wrote:your faggotfriend is a fucking hyprocrite :), sabi not banned me for say to him fag, him banned me for "shitpost" when I say my opinion

I'm not being a hypocrite, that's our word
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby LoW2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:50 pm

I got banned for saying "jew" :lol: .

I knew you loved him JC.....
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Amanda44 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:11 pm

@ windmaker - I'm sorry but you missed my point, it wasn't about the use of the word 'fag', 'faggot' or 'faggit' - Vaku was trying to imply that you were unaware of the meaning in a sexual context which therefore negates your ban, I was just proving that you were indeed well aware of it's sexual meaning and used it thus.

I said right at the beginning of this whole argument in my first response to Vaku that it wasn't about the use of the words on their own.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Kaios » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:14 pm

Lord_of_War wrote:

windmaker wrote:


shut up faggots
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby TeckXKnight » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:15 pm

As the rule says, excessive swearing is the problem. You guys can bitch and cry all you want but it comes down to it being roughly 60% of your vocabulary. If all you are is a bot that spams the word 'fag' constantly then you can spend some time in the corner.

Likewise cut out unrelated conversations and pointless comments in this thread, especially if you're on a ban.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby LoW2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:19 pm

Contested ban....
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby LadyV » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:27 pm

First of all if you read the statements be each person who was banned they most certainly intended their words to be interpreted as they were. Second the rules are at the top of every forum topic and the burden of knowledge is upon you.

Now can we please stop debating the obvious and let people move on.
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