World 6

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Re: World 6

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:27 am

eliminoid wrote:
MagicManICT wrote: Even without an OSS client, Java is very easy to hack

I don't much know java but there is exists such thing like checksums right? And AFAIK, even Minecraft has some kind of serverside anticheat.


These can be hacked. It just moves it into the realm of the super-elite who has them, the ones that are most likely to shit on your parade. Just look at WoW and all the client hacks that have been running around.

But, this isn't a commercial game. Commercial developers pay big money to guys that can create this stuff. I wouldn't surprise me one bit if Activision-Blizzard has thrown tens of millions of dollars at the problem, something small developers can't do. I've not dug into minecraft because, honestly, I don't consider it worth the time it took me to download it. It looks fun, but when I go to play it, I find myself just wanting to go back to other "real" games and quit playing with a box with only 6 Legos in it. (Yes, really bad analogy and to the extreme. Get over it.)

Honestly, if all the problems in the game are too much for you, quit. Most of us that have been around for more than a year have. I stick around and play around just to keep abreast of the changes waiting for Jorb & Loftar to get done with Salem and start working on HnH again. I stick around because I like helping out the new guys on the forums, and there's only a few of us here that are a real help.
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Re: World 6

Postby boshaw » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:33 am

eliminoid wrote:I don't much know java but there is exists such thing like checksums right?

Checksums can be faked and the custom client could just send the server the current workign check-sum to pass the test.
eliminoid wrote:And AFAIK, even Minecraft has some kind of serverside anticheat.

Haven does have serverside anticheat systems. This is why you don't see people running at super speeds, huge stats,etc. Anything super harmful is protected on the serverside and the client is only a render/input getter.

Things like radar, autohearth,etc take advantage of what the server sends to the client, The Objects, once the client has the object it's allowed to do whatever it wants with them to display(radar) to the user or send back input with them(autohearth on x object,etc).
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Re: World 6

Postby mustachio » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:58 pm

what is this i hear about a wipe of world 6? .....?????
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Re: World 6

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:04 pm

mustachio wrote:what is this i hear about a wipe of world 6? .....?????


Someone talking out their ass is what you heard. There is no reset coming. If there were, there'd be a post by Jorb or loftar about w7.
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Re: World 6

Postby jorb » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:25 pm

mustachio wrote:what is this i hear about a wipe of world 6? .....?????


Idle lies, of course.
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Re: World 6

Postby bmjclark » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:28 pm

It's funny because you believed something you heard on global chat ;)
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Re: World 6

Postby jorb » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:30 pm

bmjclark wrote:It's funny because you believed something you heard on global chat ;)


This.
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Re: World 6

Postby mustachio » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:37 pm

jorb wrote:
mustachio wrote:what is this i hear about a wipe of world 6? .....?????


Idle lies, of course.


sweet. i was hoping so. :)
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Re: World 6

Postby krikke93 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:55 pm

Some of us are, some not. I am :D
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Re: World 6

Postby atlasas9 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:30 pm

so how long world 6 gonna last till world 7 ??
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