A Plea for Moderation

[GrapefruitV]

I love this forum's moderation as it is. And I think it is close to perfect (unless burg is somewhere around). We have enough freedom comparing to some other boards. Strict rules is not the thing, which could have made it better. If you ask me, the only reason to ban someone is spam and/or big amount of his useless posts. I'm not talking about LoW or windmaker personally now, because I came back only recently and I couldn't figure out yet why everyone hates lord that much. But sabinati always seemed fair-minded to me (to be honest he is my favourite mod), so I trust him, if he thinks it needed to be done. Ban for every usage of a "bad" word without taking context and personal history into account would be much more hypocritical.

[sabinati]

Tracing my accusation of hypocrisy requires acknowledging the rulebreak.

sabinati writes in both cases, respective of time:

Reason: if you don't want people to read or respond to your posts, don't write them.

Reason: shitposting constantly

Note the lack of citation to the rules which sabinati himself published. Does this not show enough the prevalence that there lacks a standard to which these punishments are measured?

We must assume that indeed, sabinati was acting on a rulebreak, otherwise the bans, particularly the ban of Lord_of_War, are being made with no sound accord, and are worse than hypocritical, they are groundless and should be lifted.

Before going further with Lord_of_War's ban, we should first establish if sabinati banned Lord_of_War from this page viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32976&start=350#p473171 to this page viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32976&start=360 ,in that instance—with ample reason.

Windmaker's case rests on the fact that we have no standard. Mockery, as shown by sabinati and ChildhoodObesity, feeding on Arcanist's posting, without this standard, constitutes just as well as shitposting / derailment / spam, which is what some might view as bannable. Indeed the rules as published by sabinati show them to be spam.

The forum is not your blog! Threads not even remotely related to the game may be moderated!

To retain sabinati's, ChildhoodObesity's, and Arcanist's skirting offenses, is to suggest that windmaker too skirts the line, and warrants no ban, especially when there lacks a standard for foul language and offense, when windmaker himself, per Arcanist's evidence, shows he does not use the word "fag" as it has been conceived to mean in Jordan Coles' appeal for a ban.

I again make my plea, that the bans either be reduced or become enforced with a clear standard (hell, I'll even help to rewrite the rules, provide graphics and crap so everyone is clear of do's and don't's).

they are only banned for a week, so no.

[Tonkyhonk]

(hell, I'll even help to rewrite the rules, provide graphics and crap so everyone is clear of do's and don't's).

oh god, no way, dont even think about it please.

[LoW2]

Are you afraid they would be too good and fair?

[jordancoles]

We're afraid these forums will become the Salem forums.
Now kindly fuck off for 7 days already

[LoW2]

Do tell us stories of these fabled salem forums.

[Arcanist]

We're afraid these forums will become the Salem forums.
Now kindly fuck off for 7 days already

Aren't you a mod in the salem forums?

[sabinati]

let me clarify some things:

don't start flamewars in this or any other announcement thread.
don't follow people around the forum and post inane bullshit.

both of these fall under the really fucking simple set of rules as well as common sense, and i feel like i'm being really chill about the whole thing so far, so take your week and think about how you can not do those things when you get back.

kthx

[LoW2]

You have been chill. Can you move the flame war bits to mod abuse thread. It's more befitting. The plea stands. Asking someone to do something is an opinion and not ban worthy. It's just words. No one should ever be banned for having a contrary opinion.

[sabinati]

that's just like, your opinion, man