Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby Butko » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:20 pm

OvShit wrote:What`s for quality, ~45 quality arrows can be made easily with at least 60 survival and some dead hi-lvls. And then your bow will become a little machine gun which will lead to more arrows and so on.

No... at q45 aiming speed still sux. So no. And even with that there is no point lvling MM over 80. So no. Killing one animal for 2 min and you must aim from boat. If you don't kill it with one shot it iwll run away and you can just forget about to kill it. No...
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby OvShit » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:29 pm

Butko wrote:
OvShit wrote:What`s for quality, ~45 quality arrows can be made easily with at least 60 survival and some dead hi-lvls. And then your bow will become a little machine gun which will lead to more arrows and so on.

No... at q45 aiming speed still sux. So no. And even with that there is no point lvling MM over 80. So no. Killing one animal for 2 min and you must aim from boat. If you don't kill it with one shot it iwll run away and you can just forget about to kill it. No...

Pssst...come closer.
*whispers*You can click a button near animal`s portrait to make it stop and then come closer and finish it with punch. But don`t tell anyone!
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby Butko » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:30 pm

OvShit wrote:
Butko wrote:
OvShit wrote:What`s for quality, ~45 quality arrows can be made easily with at least 60 survival and some dead hi-lvls. And then your bow will become a little machine gun which will lead to more arrows and so on.

No... at q45 aiming speed still sux. So no. And even with that there is no point lvling MM over 80. So no. Killing one animal for 2 min and you must aim from boat. If you don't kill it with one shot it iwll run away and you can just forget about to kill it. No...

Pssst...come closer.
*whispers*You can click a button near animal`s portrait to make it stop and then come closer and finish it with punch. But don`t tell anyone!

And u get much less LP... thank you I already know that...
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby OvShit » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:03 pm

Butko wrote:And u get much less LP... thank you I already know that...

Still, you get the meat.
And why there`s no point in lvling MM? If you want to be a hunter, you actually have to do it.
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby Butko » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:06 pm

OvShit wrote:
Butko wrote:And u get much less LP... thank you I already know that...

Still, you get the meat.
And why there`s no point in lvling MM? If you want to be a hunter, you actually have to do it.

Omg u r thick as a tableboard. ALmost nobody hunt just because they need meat. Most of ppl hunt coz we want to get LP. Loot is only a side stuff we get.
And there is no point of lvling MM if you don't have good arrows all the time. It's just no point even using ranged weapon.
NOw if you want to be a good hunter you need to have good survival, a lot of luck to find good soil, clay and water and ofc full nature to plant a lot of trees to grow your own forest for arrows... Yeah. GG.
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby OvShit » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:19 pm

Butko wrote:
OvShit wrote:
Butko wrote:And u get much less LP... thank you I already know that...

Still, you get the meat.
And why there`s no point in lvling MM? If you want to be a hunter, you actually have to do it.

Omg u r thick as a tableboard. ALmost nobody hunt just because they need meat. Most of ppl hunt coz we want to get LP. Loot is only a side stuff we get.
And there is no point of lvling MM if you don't have good arrows all the time. It's just no point even using ranged weapon.
NOw if you want to be a good hunter you need to have good survival, a lot of luck to find good soil, clay and water and ofc full nature to plant a lot of trees to grow your own forest for arrows... Yeah. GG.

I, for example, have 60 survival and 75MM, arrows are 30-50. And, you know, it never takes more than 20 secs for shot to be prepared and never more than two shots to have the boar slain. I guess, with a bit better bow I`d kill`em in one shot like in old times. So, try to upgrade your weapon, sir.
And, by the way, you`d better seek for hi-lvl animals, not for branches.
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby rye130 » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:34 pm

Butko wrote:Most of ppl hunt coz we want to get LP. Loot is only a side stuff we get.


Maybe thats why they made the change...
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby Seren_Elder » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:37 pm

I just tried out slings and we took down a herd of aurochs

they are fine, stop complaining

EDIT:

i can kill aurochs fine with a Q4 sling (yes i am lazy to increase q of my string)
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby rye130 » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:42 pm

Its not that you can't kill with a sling, its that it takes like 7 times more stones then before.
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Re: Game Development: Stop. It's Hammertime.

Postby Kaios » Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:11 pm

Why not just raise the LP gain on boar/deer/bear and leave the same for fox and Auroch/Mouflon? Obviously Foxes, Aurochs and Mouflon are what most people would consider to be the "Newb Animals" and you can easily take them down just fencing them in and and slinging them to death. No one with a bow is really going to bother killing a huge herd now anyways unless they are hunting with crappy arrows anyways or a sling.

The LP raise on the other animals I think is a fair compromise for the time spent killing them now, butchering them up, collecting bones, making arrows and the overall LP loss through hunting due to sling nerf.
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