Game Development: I was a Highwayman

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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby Riou1231 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:55 am

And now there's Peapods, damned ninja update. :lol:
I like apple juice.
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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby bitza » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:41 pm

SevenBlade wrote:Now all we need is horse/ox pulled carts and trade will have a rebirth.


yeah but no point in that if we can't ford rivers :lol:

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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby jorb » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:42 pm

Oregon Trail :D
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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby ThirdEmperor » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:01 am

jorb wrote:Oregon Trail :D


You have caught Scarlet Fever.

Your wagon is stuck in the mud.

You're screwed.

Try again?
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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby Erhen » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:49 pm

I want spar buoy to be added too.. Because my char is seaman (river-man) and viking... And landscaping is boring after all, water traveling is funnier.
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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby KoE » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:32 am

Well if the topic title is any indication the next updates should be sailing, dam-building, and starships.
I'm having too much fun with that title reference.

Anyway, I've finally gotten around to playing with this after someone pointed out I should just build my path along the mountainside instead of carting stuff out to the boulder-less area to our west (which would have required one of our temporarily-absent-due-to-finals village members with a key to that gate).

A few observations, some of which may have been made previously:

Ugh, pathing straight to the little pillar is annoying. Especially cartwise. I'm not sure how to remedy this from a design level; if it could somehow be set to identify roadways, that'd be awesome. I'll try out the temporary 'fix' of placing milestones on each side so hopefully the cart won't get stuck on any one in particular later.

You can't place milestones on mountain terrain. This vexes me because I don't want to deface my mountain any more than I have to. (Not really a big deal unless you're finicky like me).

I really want to see dirt roads, both for aesthetic reasons and because I can easily imagine a plow-like interface for creating them. I don't know if this would out-mode stone roads or not, assuming they get no advantages other than the decreased stamina drain and the disadvantage of 'the paving interface sucks' remains.

The pricing mildly concerns me but I think it's about right overall, especially if you're building an actual road to follow the path at the same time.
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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby dcastello79 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:22 am

KoE wrote:Well if the topic title is any indication the next updates should be sailing, dam-building, and starships.
I'm having too much fun with that title reference.

Anyway, I've finally gotten around to playing with this after someone pointed out I should just build my path along the mountainside instead of carting stuff out to the boulder-less area to our west (which would have required one of our temporarily-absent-due-to-finals village members with a key to that gate).

A few observations, some of which may have been made previously:

Ugh, pathing straight to the little pillar is annoying. Especially cartwise. I'm not sure how to remedy this from a design level; if it could somehow be set to identify roadways, that'd be awesome. I'll try out the temporary 'fix' of placing milestones on each side so hopefully the cart won't get stuck on any one in particular later.

You can't place milestones on mountain terrain. This vexes me because I don't want to deface my mountain any more than I have to. (Not really a big deal unless you're finicky like me).

I really want to see dirt roads, both for aesthetic reasons and because I can easily imagine a plow-like interface for creating them. I don't know if this would out-mode stone roads or not, assuming they get no advantages other than the decreased stamina drain and the disadvantage of 'the paving interface sucks' remains.

The pricing mildly concerns me but I think it's about right overall, especially if you're building an actual road to follow the path at the same time.



Dirt roads could, conceivably, could enable players the ability to walk instead of being able to run (like stone roads allow for). Plus, another process that takes more stamina to create this dirt roads, such as 'clearing the area' like processes, could balance the two out.
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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby Jackard » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:32 am

Dirt is already in game and has its own properties. It allows running like grassland and pulling carts at walk speed.

The ability to make dirt "roads" using Dig was from the first world. This was how players collected clay, long before resource hotspots and shallow water clay was implemented.
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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby KoE » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:43 am

I need to learn to balance between being concise and being clear.

Yeah, I would like to see the return of dirt roads, which were basically creatable mudflats. (I had forgotten carts could be pulled at walk speed on them, though). It should probably be harder than the old 'dig up the grass' lest people just tear up other people's areas for the lulz. Perhaps simply plowing and an option to... somehow terraform it into mudflat terrain that just eats some stamina. That way, stone road building = needs stone, dirt road building = just cut out the last step.

Of course somehow decreasing the number of clicks should be looked at, too.

The primary difference between the two would be 'carts at run speed' vs effort invested which seems appropriate to me.
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Re: Game Development: I was a Highwayman

Postby ThirdEmperor » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:49 am

Maybe the current milestone could be replaced by some kind of gate? One with enough room for a cart to pass through?
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