Game Development: Salem & Haven

[kaizokuroof]

I personally think that jorb and Loftar are clever enough to exceed your expectations of cash shop power gaming....

cash shop is not a choice of developers, it is choice of producer and publishing company.
can you say what Gordon Van Dyke is clever enough? i don't know, not sure.

The idea is mine and was in the original pitch I made for the game. The game has been designed from the beginning with this premise very much in mind. Gordon is awesome. Clever in many ways, but mostly just awesome.

Money can obviously be used to get you ahead in any mmo. If I, for example, really wanted to buy a Haven character I could probably find a seller. That being said I can certainly understand if not all people like the concept for aesthetic reasons, but hey, Salem is free to play -- you don't have to put money down -- and Haven will never have a cash shop, so it's not like you're out of options.

I consider it an interesting experiment, quite simply.

Cash shop!!! Jorb how could you. I appreciate Loftar's and your creation "Haven and Hearth" quite a bit, in fact I would go as far as to say that is quite simply the best game in existence. I am not happy about the cash shop, that I thought would not be implemented, but honestly how are you guys to make money, right? Not that it matters to you, but I will be playing Salem and continue to play haven as well. Congratulations, your dreams are coming true! Your hard work finally being realised!!

With regard to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3nxcjaTUbc - Your Interview about Salem, I am sad that they compared your game, nay your creation to Minecraft and Terraria, it is something much better and IMO cannot compare to the two to Salem or Haven.

Once again thanks for making my most wildest gamer nerd video game dreams come true!!!!!! Your biggest fanboy

Kaizokuroof.

P.S Feel free to let me into the Alpha test, I'll quit my job and play the shit out of your game

P.P.S Haven gives me a broner everytime I play it SexyTime.jpg

P.P.P.S No homo in this post.

[Butko]

Well devs also need to live from something right? Also publisher wish to get some $$$ from game they publish right? So if it is free to play there must be something to pay for.

[Onionfighter]

I think it may be difficult to judge the receding corners of the humors diamond. Aesthetically it looks ok, but it might be better to use something easier to read.

[kaizokuroof]

I think it may be difficult to judge the receding corners of the humors diamond. Aesthetically it looks ok, but it might be better to use something easier to read.

It looks like some of the graphics that were used are part of Haven, a good example is the Combat picture, the "?" looks familiar I'm pretty sure the text is the same that is used on Haven as well, although I watched the video a while ago so I'm going from memory... I'm guessing that Jorb will change this at a later date, but at the moment the game is very early on, release date is for summer 2012 if I remember correctly?

[painhertz]

Just FINISHED watching the video interview with that Brit guy. JERSEY DEVILS!!!!!! You guys are now officially my favorite people! lol

[painhertz]

OMG!!!!! JORB!!!! Mothman! You guys HAVE to put in Mothman!!!!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman

[stonedpaul]

The characters graphics improved a lot, good work.

Im a bit worried about this cash shop, but Jorb is an Austrian School adept, so I think we can trust him with the economics aspect.

I think this cash shop can even fit the "lore", as exemple, they could sell items that aren't natural on united states territory back then. But what I want to know is if we'll still be able to set up our own barter stands and mint coins, or if all the trade would be made by the shop like a WoW auction house. If it's like a auction house, maybe the game should have "physical" buildings that represents this shop that could even be made by players, then someone can still role a merchant that buy things in the auction house and transport to places more "uncivilized", because the problem I see with the auction house is the fact that a automatic trade of goods could hurt the social aspect of economics.

But it's soon yet, I think we need to see more details before judging.
Another interesting question, Salem will have a trade window? Trowing things on the floor to others is not cool..

[Gauteamus]

Having to trust the other in hand-to-hand trades is cool, though.

[MagicManICT]

I can name a couple of games with cash shops that work very good, and ones where you can buy your way into the higher ranks. Thing is... nearly everything is subject to destruction.

[Jackard]

The characters graphics improved a lot, good work.