Game Development: Bed & Breakfast

[Winter]

Well I'm screwed, I lost my key a while ago so I'm trapped inside my palisade. I don't have a bed yet because I was trying to make one.

This is why we should be able to kick out our own hearth fires.



Also, I miss "light my fire" when lighting fire, "light" is so bland in comparison.

Yeah well my camp is way out in the middle of no where, even if I removed my hearth fire it would take days to find my camp again. I wasn't expecting an update like this..

[Hamel]

Erh, is there any particular reason why the sturdy bed has no hit-box?

[Chakravanti]

Okay so now that I've got some in game experience with the new system and some time to puff my frustrations away...I have some more productive critique.

1. Hearth>Idol>RoB

-This allows new players to be recruited. If you don't have a hearth you can port ot your idol. If you don't have EITHER you can port to RoB.

Signposts aren't as bad as I thought. Still bitch to move 1k bricks even a short distance. I just finished up almost 150 on full weariness meaning I'm going to have to spend my entire day not playing and using alt that i happen to currently have at my vilage to move them without being productive. So...

2. Please allow Carts and Carried containers to movce through signposts please. Makes sense and will allow high quantity trades. Could probably move all these bricks in one wearienss bar if cart were permitted. Although delivering to Delmore is impossible atm.

EDIT: It occurs to me that this presents a whole new set of security risks and should be a toggle-able option by the lawspeaker/chieftain. Furthermore, when writs are implemented it should be permitted on a writ basis.

3. SIgnposting is backward. I, as lawspeaker, should be able to remove targets under my jurisdiction from other people's signposts. Although they should be able to remove them as well. Also, as lawspeaker, I should confirm the addition of targets under my jurisdiction to signposts. IMHO I should be able to do this either from the signpost being added to or from the target signpost. As it is, the current system presents some security risks.

[sabinati]

i'm pretty sure they said you can port carryables under the new system.

[Winter]

bah I cant even log on my char, he's too hungry and cant get any more food

[loftar]

1. Hearth>Idol>RoB

-This allows new players to be recruited. If you don't have a hearth you can port ot your idol. If you don't have EITHER you can port to RoB.

That's a very good idea, actually. I'll fix that.

2. Please allow Carts and Carried containers to movce through signposts please. Makes sense and will allow high quantity trades. Could probably move all these bricks in one wearienss bar if cart were permitted. Although delivering to Delmore is impossible atm.

I thought carried object could be ported through crossroads, but I realize now that you are right, since you can't even click the signpost when carrying something. I'll fix that too. Carts are harder, however.

3. SIgnposting is backward. I, as lawspeaker, should be able to remove targets under my jurisdiction from other people's signposts.

Techincally speaking, you can, but only by destroying the crossroads.

Also, as lawspeaker, I should confirm the addition of targets under my jurisdiction to signposts.

It is only the lawspeaker or chieftain who can create new roadsigns, so you do confirm them implicitly.

[Laremere]

I thought carried object could be ported through crossroads, but I realize now that you are right, since you can't even click the signpost when carrying something. I'll fix that too. Carts are harder, however.

While you're at it, make it so you can open gates while lifting something.

Edit: Also, I should mention, I don't think this type of travel should ever be viable for large amounts of trade, and instead be only for character and a small amount of items, and leave mass trade for barges.

[VoodooDog]

after playing a while with the new system i have to say ITS AMAZING.

now far world distances are REALLY far. trading become more stronger. campe in mordor will really live like in mordor. no teleporting to rob and get the good stuff of live so easy. thats so cool.

[Delamore]

Loftar, can you also give everyone a free trip? So everyone can get to their place now with the update just added.

[Chakravanti]

1. Hearth>Idol>RoB

-This allows new players to be recruited. If you don't have a hearth you can port ot your idol. If you don't have EITHER you can port to RoB.

That's a very good idea, actually. I'll fix that.

Try not to mind me too personal when I become irate. I'm just very expressive. I will chill out eventually and come up with something noteworthy.

2. Please allow Carts and Carried containers to movce through signposts please. Makes sense and will allow high quantity trades. Could probably move all these bricks in one wearienss bar if cart were permitted. Although delivering to Delmore is impossible atm.

I thought carried object could be ported through crossroads, but I realize now that you are right, since you can't even click the signpost when carrying something. I'll fix that too. Carts are harder, however.
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Very awesome. This does speed things up for me just a bit. Thanks. Looking forward to carts, they could possibly make mass production possible. Please note to be sure this works with the options in the travel menu. (hearth, RoB, Idol).

3. SIgnposting is backward. I, as lawspeaker, should be able to remove targets under my jurisdiction from other people's signposts.

Techincally speaking, you can, but only by destroying the crossroads.

EDIT: SHIT. Just realized what you meant. Yes, this is a function available to grant security. And for the time being I suppose it is advisable to make one connection per crossroad to be able to maintain this security. Still, it is a rather encumbering method.

Archaic, FTR.

Not on other people's jurisdiction without leaving vandalism scents (given also, that the lawspeaker has such black skills). And of course, the inconvenience to someone who is likely to be an ally, but has possibly leaked a security bit somehow and is your motivation for removing your signpost (even if, temporarily). Note however, there should be an idol interface that allows signpost management of your vilage's signs as well as signs under other people's jurisdiction by lawspeaker and chieftain. I realize that is asking a lot and that it is UI work and probably not in the near future, but would be important. Particularily as the next suggestion I made adds a whole new level of security risks to H&H theft: Plows, caultrons, chests and other expensive difficult to move items have now been made tradeable (A PLUS!) but are also at risk of theft (Also a plus, but needs to have balanced ability maintain security in an ever changing landscape). I think I mentioned the value of an Idol interface for other functions to wit, may be redundant with the writ functions.

This should be doable without invoking or possessing any black skills. Although it is certainly understandable to leave tresspass scents to reach a road sign on territory you are not kinned to as this does not require skill tresspassing (I always kinda wondered about that one...). Upon reaching this sign it should be invokable if only the option to remove your sign (Even if not to be able to USE the crossroads, only the function to remove the sign should under all circumstances be available to the lawspeaker whose jurisdiction the sign targets). Of course, idol interface would be ideal and give the options to lesser villages to remove their signs from godlike cities who have acted in kindness to the entire map to gain acess, and then decided to use thatr access to go on a genocidal rampage. Sure, unlikely, but not unfeasable or unforeseeable. Villages should have recourse to deal with betrayal in this fasion without having to hike out to the offending village's signpost to wit, would be impossible under such an event because of obvious level differences necessary to execute such a holocaust.

Also, as lawspeaker, I should confirm the addition of targets under my jurisdiction to signposts.

It is only the lawspeaker or chieftain who can create new roadsigns, so you do confirm them implicitly.

Not implicitly. You do control who you give them to so there is a significant trust factor involved in allowing other towns to have your signs, but nto where they put them and (as stated above, Who gets to use them. This bothers me just a bit, but would nullified and irrelevant given an idol interface.

^^^I realize this is also Irrelevant now^^^

Also, will writ functions be applicable items other than crossroads. IOW, can I give people writs to port in and use my coin press/smelter/meat grinder/etc. Would greatly assist the writ system itself as it would increase currency flow which would enable to the writ system itself.

Loftar, can you also give everyone a free trip? So everyone can get to their place now with the update just added.

He has promised Idol functions to serve in the absence of a hearth at my behest this should cover your recruitment scheme as well. Currently you can always port to your hearth regardless of you weariness (though it throw your weariness to excess, not be a free teleport). Then you can destroy your hearth and relog to your village Idol.

Which brings me to something else. In the absence of the hearth I believe lo/li shouldn't be necessary to port to idol the way it isn't to hearth even given full weariness.

I thought carried object could be ported through crossroads, but I realize now that you are right, since you can't even click the signpost when carrying something. I'll fix that too. Carts are harder, however.

While you're at it, make it so you can open gates while lifting something.

Edit: Also, I should mention, I don't think this type of travel should ever be viable for large amounts of trade, and instead be only for character and a small amount of items, and leave mass trade for barges.

I must disagree. Water does not extend beyond the main supergrid. Therefore it must be necessary to have some kind of mass transit system via land. I assume that boats will enable larger quantities of movement than cart and will thus remain the preffered mode of cargo shipment, while the crossroads system becoems a menas to conect to other supergrid water systems and thus given rise to the Port cities! Such as Port Innsmouth. It is such themeatics that are so in line with the 'real' Innsmouth that have inspired me to continue the Innsmouth project despite it being so understaffed atm. As soon as I get these bricks moved and some coins pressed, however, that shall change.

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It also further occurs to me that it would be relevant to add some sort of display to the login screen that references the charecter's wearienss so that a player does not interrupt sleep as I understand it doing so changes rate of recovery.