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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Alecela » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:40 am

Rhiannon wrote:
loftar wrote:In case it really isn't obvious to you: Obviously, there isn't anyone who actually believes that there shouldn't be good health care for everyone. The real question is how such health care is actually obtained. What reasonable people realize is that it doesn't happen through any action of the government.


Really? And a Swedish pothead knows about American health care from? Ever seen the movie Sicko? Dude, in this country, if you go to casuality (Emergency room) with 2 severed fingers they'll quote you a price on each one and ask you to choose if you don't have the money to pay...LOL THAT'S THE TRUTH! They WILL let SICK CHILDREN DIE if the HMO decides the treatment costs too much. I KNOW such things are SO unbelievable to those outside the USA that they shake their heads and say "You're full of it" because in YOUR country such things would be so shocking it WOULD be unbelievable. But here, it is true. Sure the republicans want health care IF you can pay for it. HERE when you go into casualty the first question they ask is NOT "what's wrong" but "Insurance card please"!. There are been people who have DIED from trying to sew themselves up with homemade stitches by needle and sewing thread or fishing line. People's get kicked out of their homes for morgaging their houses of 30 years to try to pay for an operation! Canadians buy SPECIAL Insurane vouchers from their government before they travel across the border because they are THAT scared of our medical health care system and are afraid of getting caught init when they come down here...Sorry man but that just pissese off...you go back to doodling little curios until your stoned ass comes over here and catches the flu one good time and see how your totally UNINFORMED opinion changes.



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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby rozn » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:41 am

loftar wrote:
Naeght wrote:
loftar wrote:Are you suggesting healthcare is free in other countries?

It is in Argentina, we might suck in many things, but if you are dying, or you only have a red throat , you will get free care from the state. Be ready to wait 6 hours to get attention, or wait 4 months for an appointment, but hey, we are a third world country.

Hey, that sounds like Sweden!

Way to miss the point, by the way. "Free care from the state" isn't free. Government, popular to contrary belief, cannot conjure wealth out of thin air.

Free healthcare in the U.S :)
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Naeght » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:44 am

loftar wrote:
Naeght wrote:What you capitalist pigs seem to forget, is that you need the industrial reserve army to lower general wages. If you let them die, you wont earn as much.

Because the alternative, indeed, to social medicine, is that the proletariat dies. You got me there, Captain Strawman.


Sub-proletariat. Give no healthcare to the extremly-poor and their health condition will gradually lower, meaning they aren't able to replace current workers, meaning you can't fire them when they strike or ask for better raises.
Either way, i believe that since the money came from the workers, it should remain with the workers, if it were for me i would just turn all the Sheraton's into hospitals, expropriate everything and distribute it evenly. Also, don't forget to execute fascists, no revolution is complete without a few good executions.
So, keep having petty dispute among yourself democrats and republicans! You will all be crushed under the giant red boot of COMMUNISM! (as long as we manage to build an international party of revolutionary leaders again)
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Kaios » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:45 am

Guys I live in Canada and it's chilly here.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Lahrmid » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:46 am

Kaios wrote:Guys I live in Canada and it's chilly here.


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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Rhiannon » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:51 am

loftar wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:Dude, in this country, if you go to casuality (Emergency room) with 2 severed fingers they'll quote you a price on each one and ask you to choose if you don't have the money to pay...LOL THAT'S THE TRUTH!

Are you suggesting healthcare is free in other countries?


That's according to what you mean by "free". If you mean that a sick person is guaranteed treatment when they are ill because a healthy population is a working productive population and they are assured of this guarentee by federal taxes which are used to pay the doctors and provide heathcare then YES, to the individual at the time of service it is free BECAUSE they already paid for it in part through their taxes during their lifetime. The populations of most European/civilized countries pay taxes, those taxes are used correctly for the most part...FOR the people who provided those taxes. NOT for cheating pharmecudical and insurance companies and health care corporations.

Here is the USA, our governement was created by the founding fathers to provide the services that WE as individuals cannot. To free us from those worries and provide us with those things basic things that we as a nation need in unity. Infrastructure (Roads/transportation options, bridges) , Social Services (Veterans, elderly, impoverished, disbaled), Education, Health Care, Security (Police, Firemen, Military), and basic communication (Postal service for instance). Capitalism is FINE if it is not made into a NEON GOD. There are some things that as MORAL enlightened human beings we understand is NOT to be reduced to a silly currency! Most European countries know this, enacted this, and are reaping the benefits of it in THOSE aspects of their quality of life in the general.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Naeght » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:01 am

You guys do realize you are glorifying old farts from over 200 years ago right? Not even Marx is that old, and we admit he was wrong about many things.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby jorb » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:06 am

Naeght wrote:Marx was wrong about many things.


Was he right about any?
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby Junkfist » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:06 am

Rhiannon wrote:Here is the USA, our governement was created by the founding fathers to provide the services that WE as individuals cannot.


Everyone, kill your parents if they taught you this.
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Re: Game Development: World 5

Postby jorb » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:07 am

Junkfist wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:Here is the USA, our governement was created by the founding fathers to provide the services that WE as individuals cannot.


Everyone, kill your parents if they taught you this.


That.
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