Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby sabinati » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:44 am

Reyajh wrote:Well I still don't understand what a hearth vault really is


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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby ninja_yodeler » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:26 am

sabinati wrote:
uh, you still need to buy skills... :facepalm:


why?
given that ONE person does need to by skills, he could make infinite copies of recipes and hand them out to his community, then they would not need to learn the skills. i.e. he would give all the recipies concerning tailoring to the tailor, the tailor then does not need to buy leather working or cloth making because he already knows the recipies, why would he bother.
the same goes for any profession.
given hermits would be exempt to this flaw because they live alone and have no need to use this method, unless teaching alts a few things.
please, if you have a way to circumvate the problem i have pointed out, by all means, do so. i would love a way around it :mrgreen:
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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby Onionfighter » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:35 am

Since having the skill is a prerequisite for crafts, knowing the recipe is not enough. For instance: you can know the recipe for making a backpack, but you would still need to learn leather working before you could make one.
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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby ninja_yodeler » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:39 am

that would easily work, and fix the problem, but if you had to by the skill then the only good recipe sharing would do is just skip the discovery part of things, which was wat i was kind of getting at. for alts they dont really need to discover stuff, just have the recipe to build high q
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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby Onionfighter » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:00 am

ninja_yodeler wrote:the only good recipe sharing would do is just skip the discovery part of things

I am pretty sure that was the intended effect from the beginning.
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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby ninja_yodeler » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:09 am

oh...well... this makes me loook like a rather large douche....again.
in my now shattered defence neither sab nor anyone else until you actually pointed out that skills would still be needed :oops:
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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby Jackard » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:58 pm

ninja_yodeler wrote:in my now shattered defence neither sab nor anyone else until you actually pointed out that skills would still be needed :oops:

Because it was obvious.

Why make suggestions if you don't even understand how the system currently works?
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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby b_anon » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:03 pm

sabinati wrote:
Reyajh wrote:Well I still don't understand what a hearth vault really is


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Couldn't someone get over that using log cabin exploit?
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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby sabinati » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:18 pm

possibly. that's the first one ever, though. i don't think that exploit was known at the time. i can't remember how they got in, it wasn't by breaking the walls though.
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Re: Slight update: Hearth Vaults & Mentory Plunder

Postby Potjeh » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:20 pm

IIRC Onionfighter spawned an alt inside (via spamming), and then used him to port in his hearth (this was back when hearths were liftable, right?).
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