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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby longfeather » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:41 pm

Which way do the gates open? Towards the inside or towards the outside?
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby Kaios » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:42 pm

Yes you will need both types of gates at some point, cannot go through visitor with an open combat relation and normal lacks the safety offered by visitor debuff. I would recommend having no normal gates in to any main areas and keep them restricted to airlocks. So you could have an entrance like two normal gates opening in and out alongside two visitor gates opening in and out in to the airlock, then two more visitor gates going from inside the airlock to your inner base area which should prevent anyone who gets a key from being able to enter your base and perform crimes.

As for your current issue I dunno, do you still have the master key? If so you should replace all gates with newly keyed locks.
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby Veliaf » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:44 pm

longfeather wrote:Which way do the gates open? Towards the inside or towards the outside?


Not sure how that matters, but East inside and South outside.
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby Veliaf » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:45 pm

Kaios wrote:Yes you will need both types of gates at some point, cannot go through visitor with an open combat relation and normal lacks the safety offered by visitor debuff. I would recommend having no normal gates in to any main areas and keep them restricted to airlocks. So you could have an entrance like two normal gates opening in and out alongside two visitor gates opening in and out in to the airlock, then two more visitor gates going from inside the airlock to your inner base area which should prevent anyone who gets a key from being able to enter your base and perform crimes.

As for your current issue I dunno, do you still have the master key? If so you should replace all gates with newly keyed locks.


Sure, but yeah. I still have the two keys, all of this was done while I was asleep, so I wasn't myself mugged. Though the guy some reason took the key behind the cabinets. Not both of them.
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby longfeather » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:46 pm

Veliaf wrote:
longfeather wrote:Which way do the gates open? Towards the inside or towards the outside?


Not sure how that matters, but East inside and South outside.


Because the lock prevents it from being opened from the direction the gate opens. Of the gate opens to the outside, then it is locking players out. If it falls on the inside, then it is locking players in.
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby Veliaf » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:48 pm

longfeather wrote:
Veliaf wrote:
longfeather wrote:Which way do the gates open? Towards the inside or towards the outside?


Not sure how that matters, but East inside and South outside.


Because the lock prevents it from being opened from the direction the gate opens. Of the gate opens to the outside, then it is locking players out. If it falls on the inside, then it is locking players in.


Flaw in my design then, but I didn't really have any other keys, besides inside.
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby Kaios » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:49 pm

If one or both of those gates opens from both sides with only the slave key in your inventory they are definitely not locked.
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby Burinn » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:50 pm

Kaios wrote:If one or both of those gates opens from both sides with only the slave key in your inventory they are definitely not locked.


This. Get you some visitor gates.
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby Veliaf » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:52 pm

Kaios wrote:If one or both of those gates opens from both sides with only the slave key in your inventory they are definitely not locked.


The point being that I never made slave keys. Probably shouldn't in a case of more security, but they weren't made and the Master Keys I have for both of them.
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Re: Somebody was stealing from me

Postby Kaios » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:58 pm

Veliaf wrote:The point being that I never made slave keys. Probably shouldn't in a case of more security, but they weren't made and the Master Keys I have for both of them.


Yeah that’s quite the risk carrying around the master keys which is why you need the airlock with gates that open both outward and inward so only a slave key is required. After applying a new lock to a gate right click the master key on to all your other locks before applying them so you end up with only one master key instead of multiple. A master key opens a gate from either side regardless of which way it opens plus can be used to replicate or change locks so you should be very careful not to let the master get stolen.

I would still try opening your gates without any key in your inventory to ensure they are both locked.
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