Dagrimreefah wrote "Homophobic means "fear of the same". "
No, it doesn't. That might be a literal translation from ancient Greek, but that is not what the word means today.
Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
—ho·mo·pho·bic adjective http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/homophobia
Actually yes it does. If you want to follow the original etymology of the origins of the word, then just like you said, its Greek derivation implicitly implies it means fear of the same.
But let me guess, since Webster's says it doesn't mean that anymore, then it doesn't.
Fine, let us not use the etymological structure of language anymore. Let us just make up new definitions to words. Just as long as we cite Merriam Websters.... Fucking tool...
EDIT: I guess by your stupid ass logic, the word homogenous means "gay all over", just as long as Merriam Webster says so.
EDIT2: Just can't let this idiot go. LEt us break the fucking words down, shall we, tool?
That is the reason why the term "homo" has been popularized, because of the word "homosexual". Now:
Doesn't matter what a fucking dictionary company says. The goddamned etymology of the word is right there, retard. See? need more?:
Etymology. Look it up, cretin.
min_the_fair wrote:This foreigner is confused. Perhaps you can clarify for me, in what way does it infringe your rights to let two people (who are not you, who you do not want to marry yourself) get married?
That is my point. It is not against my rights, or anyones' rights if 2 gay people want to marry. But what is marriage?
Marriage is a religious ceremony practiced as a symbolic representation of 2 individuals coming together and forming a "jointly life pact" if you will. But it is just that. A religious ceremony. It may not even be religious. However, it is still just a ceremony.
Now the state says "ok, we collect taxes because you folks allow us to, so we can operate. For married people, we will consider your taxes jointly owed and thus you will get certain benefits."
Some states will say "we don't want to allow that discount/tax cut/state-contacted marriage to be on our books. Sometimes it is because of the heavily religious constituency. Sometimes it is simply because the state (and the rest of the taxpayers, no one ever hears their voice though) can't afford it. There are multitudes of reasons. But that doesn't mean you still can't get married. As I said, marriage is a religious ceremony. No one is stopping gay people from practicing that religious ceremony. It is only that certain states don't allow your marriage to fit into a tax bracket.
I'm not making my point clear enough...
When you pay taxes in the first place, you are delegating your rights away to the state. You are willfully handing money to an agency for promises of services or protection or arbitration later. The state saying "ok we will discount your taxes but not yours" is NOT an infringement of rights....
min_the_fair wrote:Can you clarify for me what you mean by this? Are you referring to a difference in state vs federal law? (something we don't have in my country so I'm not sure how the distinctions work).
Yes, I am referring to differences in state vs federal. In a free society envisioned by the framers of my country, the power is first and foremost held in every individual (government to yourself). Then we can delegate some power to our local town government. Then delegate to the county gov't. Then the state gov't. Finally, to the federal gov't. The federal gov't was supposed to have very defined and rigid powers and us people have complete control over our own lives. But it has since turned a complete 180 degrees and now people clammer for the federal government to control all of us for the sake of some people who practice a fetish to get a tax break.
TL;DR: When you get taxed, you are giving your rights away to the government for the promises the state gives you. Them not giving you a discount because of whatever reason is not them infringing on anyones' rights. Them showing up at a gay marriage religious ceremony with guns and forcing everyone to disperse is a violation of rights.