Which one should I keep?

[saltmummy626]

I got a pair of young male cows here, I always look at the breeding quality but I think Im doing it wrong. to get the best results, which of these cows do you think I should keep, and which should I kill. Also, this isnt in "how do I" area because Im not asking how to do something, im asking for an opinion.

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the reason I ask is becuase, the milk quality is better on one than the other. what im really asking I guess, is should I go with material quality or breeding quality? does the milk quality pass from one cow to the offspring, or does it all depend on the breeding quality.

[Tacheron]

Cows gain food from two sources:
1) The food trough: Build it (containers), and fill it. Seeds and straw go into the trough.
2) Moor, heath and grassland tiles. These always count as a food unit of quality level 10.

The cows have statistics. To see these, right click on the cow and select "Info", this opens the cow's character sheet. You can name your cows, and also see their stats. Cows have the following values.

Meat Quality/Quantity: Self-explanatory
Milk Quality/Quantity: Self-explanatory (Quantity is deciliters of milk per five hours) only applicable for cows, but inheritable through bulls
Hide Quality: Self-explanatory
Breeding Quality: Puts a soft cap on all breeding from this cow, only applicable for bulls, but inheritable through cows
Wellfedness: A beige bar to the right. If the cow goes hungry, it takes a permanent hit to this value, reducing the quality of all produce from it.
Hunger: How much the cow needs to eat, indicated by the red meter to the left.
Historical food quality: The mean quality of the food that the cow has eaten, also affects the quality of its produce. Note that food quality can only reduce from the genetic values of the cow. (I.e a Q50 milk cow will only produce Q50 milk if fed with Q50 food, or higher)

Now, how do we get more cows? Well, children, there's this thing about birds and bees. A bull in the vicinity of a non-pregnant cow will... adjust her pregnancy parameters. Two weeks later (in game time), a calf is born. The stats on the calf are the mean stats of its parents, soft capped by the father's breeding value, all modified randomly by (-2/+5), except for meat quantity (-2/+2, harder to breed). In one month (ingame time) the calf will become a cow (or a bull). During its calf month the animal will only drink milk from a cow (doesn't have to be mommy), it will drink one liter per five hours, so here's hoping mom can provide. A calf only produces half the meat of a fully grown cow if slaughtered.

Please also note that a cow does not start giving milk until it has given birth to its first calf.

...we think that's about it. Also, the sheep have had a slight graphics adjustment. They will be domesticatable next dev session.

Enjoyeth!

The random modifier for calves got increased in an update, though.

I'd go for the 2nd bull if you're breeding only for milk q, but generally you do want the breeding q to be at least the same as the stat on both parents that you're trying to raise. But the milk quantity on that one is pretty low, so try to replace him with a better one asap. Also, feed the cows better

Btw, the 1st bull will give you better meat and more of it than the other bull, but wait till it's food q matches it's meat q before killing it.

I hope that answers your question

[sabinati]

kill them both, then yourself

[saltmummy626]

Cows gain food from two sources:
1) The food trough: Build it (containers), and fill it. Seeds and straw go into the trough.
2) Moor, heath and grassland tiles. These always count as a food unit of quality level 10.

The cows have statistics. To see these, right click on the cow and select "Info", this opens the cow's character sheet. You can name your cows, and also see their stats. Cows have the following values.

Meat Quality/Quantity: Self-explanatory
Milk Quality/Quantity: Self-explanatory (Quantity is deciliters of milk per five hours) only applicable for cows, but inheritable through bulls
Hide Quality: Self-explanatory
Breeding Quality: Puts a soft cap on all breeding from this cow, only applicable for bulls, but inheritable through cows
Wellfedness: A beige bar to the right. If the cow goes hungry, it takes a permanent hit to this value, reducing the quality of all produce from it.
Hunger: How much the cow needs to eat, indicated by the red meter to the left.
Historical food quality: The mean quality of the food that the cow has eaten, also affects the quality of its produce. Note that food quality can only reduce from the genetic values of the cow. (I.e a Q50 milk cow will only produce Q50 milk if fed with Q50 food, or higher)

Now, how do we get more cows? Well, children, there's this thing about birds and bees. A bull in the vicinity of a non-pregnant cow will... adjust her pregnancy parameters. Two weeks later (in game time), a calf is born. The stats on the calf are the mean stats of its parents, soft capped by the father's breeding value, all modified randomly by (-2/+5), except for meat quantity (-2/+2, harder to breed). In one month (ingame time) the calf will become a cow (or a bull). During its calf month the animal will only drink milk from a cow (doesn't have to be mommy), it will drink one liter per five hours, so here's hoping mom can provide. A calf only produces half the meat of a fully grown cow if slaughtered.

Please also note that a cow does not start giving milk until it has given birth to its first calf.

...we think that's about it. Also, the sheep have had a slight graphics adjustment. They will be domesticatable next dev session.

Enjoyeth!

The random modifier for calves got increased in an update, though.

I'd go for the 2nd bull if you're breeding only for milk q, but generally you do want the breeding q to be at least the same as the stat on both parents that you're trying to raise. But the milk quantity on that one is pretty low, so try to replace him with a better one asap. Also, feed the cows better

Btw, the 1st bull will give you better meat and more of it than the other bull, but wait till it's food q matches it's meat q before killing it.

I hope that answers your question

Thanks for that. ill just look at this next time.

kill them both, then yourself

*sigh* *shakes head* this kind of behavior is why I dont talk to other people much in real life... apart from the fact that im already pretty reclusive and only see other people at work.

[Oblivior]

kill them both, then yourself

You are on a bad reply spree aren't you

[exewu]

He's right though. Kill both those cows and wait until you get some better ones. Remember that second generation cows can have up to 30 in a stats.
Also do yourself a favour and buy a nice bull (replace buy by steal) from a more advanced village.

[saltmummy626]

He's right though. Kill both those cows and wait until you get some better ones. Remember that second generation cows can have up to 30 in a stats.
Also do yourself a favour and buy a nice bull (replace buy by steal) from a more advanced village.

unfortunately I can't. I live in one of the far grids, and their arent that many people nearby.

[FritzPL]

Suggest killing Bessie. She's got nice hide and meat,and Milk sop does not. Instead,Milk sop have got very nice milk,and I think its the only thing that you can get from cow without killing it. Of course except for cattle.

[Potjeh]

Seriously, how did you manage to get such crap rolls on their stats? You better stay away from Vegas, bro.

[Emina]

You havent really said what your purpuse of the breeding is. what is your highest priority?

If you want to breed for hide ql then forget it! you are way behind on reaching any satisfying results before any server reset. so forget about that stat.

so that leaves meat and milk quality, id say forget about quantity those stats will come later on its own, and is not as important.

question is, are you breeding for the cowchoritzos or are you breeding for high ql milk?

latley i have noticed that milk ql doesnt seem to affect the ql of cheese for example i havent tested it enough to be 100% sure tho, but the ql of the rennet put in seems to be the biggest factor, ql of the tub and the trays seems to only cap the ql not making it higher.

however milk ql affects many other things like butter and other goods that require milk.

i try to breed equal ql on all stats, even tho my priority was always milk ql. sometimes if i end up with a bull that is only good in one stat and another one that was good in the other stats i actually kept both wich gave me a variaty of stats on the calves to shoose from, i just let nature have its course, im not sure but i have a small feeling that the bulls with high ql milk for example would inpregnate the female cow with opposite stats wich gave me a calf with medium of both stats, once i got a bull with medium of both stats i kept only that one and killed the rest of the bulls, then having female cows with both high milk ql and high meat ql and breeding them with this stable stat bull, gave me a lot of good calves.

i would give you this advice, if you have enough cows , i would keep both those bulls since none of them have allaround good stats, keep two bulls with great opposite stats until you get a calve bull with even stats overall, (hoping the bull with one good stat will mate with a cow with oposite stats), once you have that even ql bull, then you can naturally have only one bull until you again only get bulls with opposite stats meaning heavaly lacks on one stat if that happens again , then once again keep two bulls again and so on. Breeding ql matters tho so always keep that in consideration when shoosing.

since both of your bulls have the same breeding ql , but other then that have opposite stats, keep both. thats what i would do, but its your own choice.

however, if your only purpuse for breeding is milk ql for example then i think you allready know what to do really.