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Farm bots blow

Postby Lusewing » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:47 pm

Im one of the rare people in the Hearthlands that loves to farm, in fact I will often never go out side my walls for days at a time because I'm having too much fun farming. However I can fully understand that many people look at a field of wheat and just see a waste of time when they could be out hunting or foraging or even mining (a task I hate) problem is that putting off farming just builds up more work, runs down your food stores and more importantly keeps you out of the Q race.

So bots look like a great option, they do the work for you with a few codes and just a click of a button and despite the fact that many people believe that this 'tool' gives many players an unfair advantage I was perfectly fine with them being used - people play games to have fun, who am I to say that they have to do something in the game then they don't enjoy (Because be honest how many trade threads are there that you can buy crop food from).

So no this post is not me whining how bots are ruining the game and giving 'lazy' people an advantage - this is me saying how bad they are...no really they are rubbish :lol:

I recently moved to a larger village and sunk my teeth into their fields (much to the relief to their lone farmer/cook) however as I worked I noticed strange things in the field Q. There were patches that were much higher Q then others in the larger fields of wheat and hemp and high Q seeds were just being tossed on the floor instead of being used as valuable fodder for animals. Eventually I found the source - a farm bot with all the Q sorting sense of a minecraft player. It would harvest a strip then go back over planting the highest Q from its inventory and then dump the rest on the floor. Anyone who farms a lot will know that crop Q can vary greatly through a field hence the reason we use our Cub's or LC's to store the best before selectively planting to keep the Q as high as possible.

....bots just don't have the brains to do that and thus will always be inferior to real players.

Sure they are great for no Q fields like your Mansion wheat or Banner hemp but other then that...bots just blow.
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby Nummy » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:56 pm

At the end it all comes down to who has better script for bot... History repeats.
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby Lusewing » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:59 pm

but that is just it - people are the best bot and will never be beat. I just felt many non bot players would like to know that their efforts were not in vain and they are not being replaced nor ever could.
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby Nummy » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:14 pm

People can make better script as you described. With so much access to code as in HnH you can almost make perfect bot.
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby hazzor » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:18 pm

Lusewing wrote:but that is just it - people are the best bot and will never be beat. I just felt many non bot players would like to know that their efforts were not in vain and they are not being replaced nor ever could.


if i could match the power of my computer's CPU with my brain, i'd be replying not only to this post, but to millions of others, simultaneously, whilst playing four pianos, seventeen trumpets, thirty three guitars and an oboe, whilst milking a male goat for it's sweet sweet man nectar...
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby Lusewing » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:24 pm

Quantity is one thing but it is Quality that everyone is after 8-) Sure a bot can do more but they can't do things better.
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby hazzor » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:31 pm

Lusewing wrote:Quantity is one thing but it is Quality that everyone is after 8-) Sure a bot can do more but they can't do things better.


eh, perhaps, I guess at that point it depends on the quality of the bot.
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby Nummy » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:15 pm

Lusewing wrote:Quantity is one thing but it is Quality that everyone is after 8-) Sure a bot can do more but they can't do things better.

It just depends how it is programmed. With good program you can do both.
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:21 pm

Any decent script can sort the quality out and do farming properly. It's not hard.

Given that you have to tie up an account running a bot (and potentially an entire computer depending on what performance you have), it's not really worth it for me, at this point in my life, to bother with bots. Sure, I suppose that I could run the things while I'm sleeping or some such, but I prefer to keep these things under observation as you never know when shenanigans are about to occur.

Myself, I enjoy farming. What frustrates me is making too much to eat and then not having anyone around to eat it. I also enjoy mining and hunting, too. I just can't stand doing the same thing all the time and too many villages want a dedicated farmer or hunter, etc. (As if it's that hard to make alts to do these things....) I would love to see a more interactive farming system, though. The current system is just too much like farmville: plant, wait, harvest, plow, repeat. Crappy systems only encourage botting more.
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Re: Farm bots blow

Postby burgingham » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:42 pm

Lusewing wrote:Quantity is one thing but it is Quality that everyone is after 8-) Sure a bot can do more but they can't do things better.


I am not sure what brings you to that conclusion. A well programmed bot can do all the farmwork just like you would do it and it is usually faster too since it doesn't take breaks, makes misclicks and so on.
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